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Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape."
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RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape."
December 8, 2014 at 2:46 pm
(December 8, 2014 at 2:38 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Ugh, don't know how many times I have to say this.. I'm not now (or ever) talking about an inherent property of reality that bestows rights into humans, I'm speaking from a moral system that values human wellbeing.
And I don't know how many times I need to say that there are other moral systems and you can't demonstrate that yours is better than the others.
Quote:If you value human wellbeing, confiscating the agency of someone over their own body is monstrous.

Do you think the father taking agency away from the woman is moral?
First, again, you presume that there's something to take away.

Second, from your own goal of well-being, yes, it could certainly be better for the girl's long-term well-being to have the father make certain decisions for her. When I was a teen I put drugs into my body and got a girl pregnant. My well-being would likely have been enhanced if my parents had exercised more control over my body.
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Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Tiberius - November 16, 2011 at 5:39 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Shell B - November 16, 2011 at 5:41 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Erinome - November 16, 2011 at 5:56 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by padraic - November 16, 2011 at 5:16 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Shell B - November 16, 2011 at 5:56 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Erinome - November 16, 2011 at 6:03 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Erinome - November 16, 2011 at 6:12 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Epimethean - November 16, 2011 at 8:47 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Cinjin - November 16, 2011 at 11:44 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Tiberius - November 16, 2011 at 11:53 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Cinjin - November 16, 2011 at 5:25 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Rev. Rye - November 16, 2011 at 10:30 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Violet - November 16, 2011 at 11:57 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by frankiej - November 16, 2011 at 1:47 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Minimalist - November 16, 2011 at 4:20 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Minimalist - November 16, 2011 at 5:52 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Anymouse - November 16, 2011 at 6:02 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Jackalope - November 16, 2011 at 6:08 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Minimalist - November 16, 2011 at 6:54 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Jackalope - November 16, 2011 at 8:45 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by edk - November 16, 2011 at 10:01 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by ElDinero - November 17, 2011 at 4:54 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by edk - November 17, 2011 at 4:59 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by ElDinero - November 17, 2011 at 5:05 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Anymouse - November 17, 2011 at 5:10 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Anymouse - November 17, 2011 at 5:01 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by edk - November 17, 2011 at 5:12 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Anymouse - November 17, 2011 at 2:44 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Phaedra - November 18, 2011 at 9:39 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by edk - November 16, 2011 at 10:14 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Shell B - November 17, 2011 at 4:59 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by edk - November 17, 2011 at 5:05 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Violet - November 17, 2011 at 1:45 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Heather - November 17, 2011 at 2:45 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Violet - November 17, 2011 at 3:54 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Shell B - November 17, 2011 at 6:02 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by edk - November 18, 2011 at 6:32 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Shell B - November 19, 2011 at 1:25 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Nope - November 26, 2014 at 8:32 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Tonus - November 26, 2014 at 9:41 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Nope - November 26, 2014 at 10:25 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Violet - December 3, 2014 at 7:32 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Violet - December 3, 2014 at 7:26 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Tiberius - November 17, 2011 at 6:30 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Violet - November 17, 2011 at 11:54 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Heather - November 17, 2011 at 2:42 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Rev. Rye - November 17, 2011 at 3:08 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Violet - November 17, 2011 at 7:14 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Violet - November 17, 2011 at 7:45 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Erinome - November 18, 2011 at 11:00 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Rayaan - November 18, 2011 at 2:19 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Minimalist - November 18, 2011 at 3:13 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Rev. Rye - November 18, 2011 at 6:50 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by IATIA - November 18, 2011 at 7:10 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Rayaan - November 18, 2011 at 7:12 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by IATIA - November 19, 2011 at 11:08 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by ElDinero - November 18, 2011 at 9:49 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Minimalist - November 18, 2011 at 11:52 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Epimethean - November 19, 2011 at 12:52 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by strawdawg - November 26, 2014 at 4:54 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by LastPoet - November 26, 2014 at 5:01 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by robvalue - November 26, 2014 at 2:58 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Violet - December 3, 2014 at 7:36 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 12:27 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 4:22 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by abaris - December 8, 2014 at 4:27 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 4:43 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - November 26, 2014 at 3:32 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Elskidor - November 26, 2014 at 4:28 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by abaris - November 26, 2014 at 4:39 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by abaris - November 26, 2014 at 4:46 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Cato - December 3, 2014 at 7:30 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 12:34 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 12:43 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by LastPoet - December 8, 2014 at 12:52 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 12:53 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by LastPoet - December 8, 2014 at 1:02 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 1:15 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by LastPoet - December 8, 2014 at 2:23 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 2:36 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 2:46 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 3:06 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 3:24 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by abaris - December 8, 2014 at 3:26 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 3:30 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 3:44 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by abaris - December 8, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 4:16 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 4:24 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 4:39 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 4:48 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 4:52 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 5:07 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by abaris - December 8, 2014 at 5:10 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 5:14 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 5:23 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 9, 2014 at 9:01 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by robvalue - December 9, 2014 at 9:15 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 9, 2014 at 11:03 am

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