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Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape."
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RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape."
December 8, 2014 at 3:24 pm
(December 8, 2014 at 3:08 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Wonderful to hear.

I still don't understand the problem you have with acknowledging certain choices in any moral question or situation are objectively better for those involved than other choices.
What you don't understand - or pretend not to understand - is that human well-being is not the only possible measure of morality, or the objectively correct measure of morality.

Further, you don't follow your own approach.

For sake of this particular argument, suppose we're dealing with a situation of rape, not seduction.

The father is better off with the payment than without.

The rapist is better off making a payment and possibly getting married than being killed or imprisoned.

The girl is worse off.

So, 2 out of 3 have greater well-being by application of this law.

Your morality seems to be based more on individual autonomy and the harm principle than on well-being.
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Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Tiberius - November 16, 2011 at 5:39 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Shell B - November 16, 2011 at 5:41 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Erinome - November 16, 2011 at 5:56 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by padraic - November 16, 2011 at 5:16 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Shell B - November 16, 2011 at 5:56 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Erinome - November 16, 2011 at 6:03 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Erinome - November 16, 2011 at 6:12 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Epimethean - November 16, 2011 at 8:47 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Cinjin - November 16, 2011 at 11:44 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Tiberius - November 16, 2011 at 11:53 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Cinjin - November 16, 2011 at 5:25 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Rev. Rye - November 16, 2011 at 10:30 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Violet - November 16, 2011 at 11:57 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by frankiej - November 16, 2011 at 1:47 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Minimalist - November 16, 2011 at 4:20 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Minimalist - November 16, 2011 at 5:52 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Anymouse - November 16, 2011 at 6:02 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Jackalope - November 16, 2011 at 6:08 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Minimalist - November 16, 2011 at 6:54 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Jackalope - November 16, 2011 at 8:45 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by edk - November 16, 2011 at 10:01 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by ElDinero - November 17, 2011 at 4:54 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by edk - November 17, 2011 at 4:59 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by ElDinero - November 17, 2011 at 5:05 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Anymouse - November 17, 2011 at 5:10 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Anymouse - November 17, 2011 at 5:01 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by edk - November 17, 2011 at 5:12 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Anymouse - November 17, 2011 at 2:44 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Phaedra - November 18, 2011 at 9:39 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by edk - November 16, 2011 at 10:14 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Shell B - November 17, 2011 at 4:59 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by edk - November 17, 2011 at 5:05 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Violet - November 17, 2011 at 1:45 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Heather - November 17, 2011 at 2:45 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Violet - November 17, 2011 at 3:54 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Shell B - November 17, 2011 at 6:02 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by edk - November 18, 2011 at 6:32 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Shell B - November 19, 2011 at 1:25 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Nope - November 26, 2014 at 8:32 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Tonus - November 26, 2014 at 9:41 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Nope - November 26, 2014 at 10:25 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Violet - December 3, 2014 at 7:32 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Violet - December 3, 2014 at 7:26 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Tiberius - November 17, 2011 at 6:30 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Violet - November 17, 2011 at 11:54 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Heather - November 17, 2011 at 2:42 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Rev. Rye - November 17, 2011 at 3:08 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Violet - November 17, 2011 at 7:14 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Violet - November 17, 2011 at 7:45 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Erinome - November 18, 2011 at 11:00 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Rayaan - November 18, 2011 at 2:19 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Minimalist - November 18, 2011 at 3:13 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Rev. Rye - November 18, 2011 at 6:50 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by IATIA - November 18, 2011 at 7:10 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Rayaan - November 18, 2011 at 7:12 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by IATIA - November 19, 2011 at 11:08 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by ElDinero - November 18, 2011 at 9:49 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Minimalist - November 18, 2011 at 11:52 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Epimethean - November 19, 2011 at 12:52 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by strawdawg - November 26, 2014 at 4:54 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by LastPoet - November 26, 2014 at 5:01 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by robvalue - November 26, 2014 at 2:58 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Violet - December 3, 2014 at 7:36 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 12:27 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 4:22 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by abaris - December 8, 2014 at 4:27 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 4:43 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - November 26, 2014 at 3:32 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Elskidor - November 26, 2014 at 4:28 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by abaris - November 26, 2014 at 4:39 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by abaris - November 26, 2014 at 4:46 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by Cato - December 3, 2014 at 7:30 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 12:34 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 12:43 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by LastPoet - December 8, 2014 at 12:52 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 12:53 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by LastPoet - December 8, 2014 at 1:02 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 1:15 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by LastPoet - December 8, 2014 at 2:23 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 2:36 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 2:46 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 3:06 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 3:24 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by abaris - December 8, 2014 at 3:26 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 3:30 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 3:44 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by abaris - December 8, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 4:16 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 4:24 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 4:39 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 4:48 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 4:52 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 5:07 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by abaris - December 8, 2014 at 5:10 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 5:14 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 8, 2014 at 5:23 pm
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 9, 2014 at 9:01 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by robvalue - December 9, 2014 at 9:15 am
RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape." - by John V - December 9, 2014 at 11:03 am

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