(December 11, 2014 at 10:19 am)Nope Wrote:(December 11, 2014 at 12:57 am)Godschild Wrote: [quote='Chad32' pid='815343' dateline='1418253979']
No it's not violating their right to free speech. When someone says happy holidays, it includes christmas as much as every other winter solstice holiday. You can still pray in schools, because prayer to Yahweh doesn't need to be spoken.
Quote:It's most certainly a violation, to sensor any word according to the courts is illegal and that's exactly what they were doing.
Children can pray out loud if it does not disrupt others. I am sure that Little Betty can say whatever prayer she wishes to say over her lunch
It's been documented that teachers have stopped children from praying at lunch, times when they can catch them without the support of others, teachers far exceed their authority over children at times. When the students gather around the flag pole in the mornings to pray the teachers are not found there, except for those teachers who participate.
Quote: but the same girl can't stand up in the middle of class and offer a prayer for guidance because it would disrupt the class. That is fair and makes sense.
Right I would not say a child can disrupt a class for any reason.
Quote:The only right that religious people have had removed because of paying taxes is the right of pastors/rabbis/Imams etc to urge their congregations to vote for certain politicians.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say, no churches are taxed and a pastor can state his reason for voting for a certain person.
Quote:The tax status of a church or synagogue or coven doesn't have any influence on individuals' rights.
I've been saying this all along, but it seems everyone want to ignore this to keep an argument going.
Quote:The reason that teachers can't lead their students in a prayer to Cthulhu, for example, is because the government can not favor one religion over another. That has nothing at all to do with taxes.
Right, but if the church is taxed all religions will be able to have teacher lead prayer, we must have representation if taxed.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.