RE: How do christians view apostasy
December 13, 2014 at 10:27 pm
(This post was last modified: December 13, 2014 at 10:29 pm by Godscreated.)
(December 13, 2014 at 9:18 pm)StealthySkeptic Wrote:(December 13, 2014 at 9:03 pm)Godschild Wrote:
Pressuring in that manner, because of an imaginary fear of an imaginary adversary that would never in a million years actually go up against an omnipotent deity, is pretty much the way that interfaith marriage, which is proven to increase religious tolerance and reduce religiously inspired violence in an area, was treated as a bad idea, thereby basically prohibited in practice by the society. Sure, it can be bad if both people are hardcore about their religion, but...egads, maybe agreeing to disagree for the happiness of the couple and allowing kids from said marriage to have choices other than blatant indoctrination is much more important than cowing before an ancient text!
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I was referring to unbelievers, guess you missed that, though those who believe in other gods are unbelievers and I guess Paul was speaking of them also. Tolerance in the form of allowing other beliefs into Christianity is no different than the Israelites allowing the gods of Canaan into their lives and beliefs. If you've read the OT you know what happened to them, that very thing stands as a warning to today's Christians, one that should be understood and heeded.
(December 13, 2014 at 9:03 pm)Godschild Wrote:
Quote:Once again, how convenient for your religion. Obviously if you acknowledged that people who were sincerely Christian but then left were...actually sincerely Christian before they left, then logically Christianity might not magically be the solution for everything somehow.
So ignore that pesky logic and keep on bowing by sticking to the No True Christian fallacy! Demeaning the experiences of ex-Christians since 33 AD!
You must be trying real hard to be a jerk, why do I believe that, because I never said anything about all Christians living the faith because they were not real Christians. Some have but they had to know what they were giving up, they freely chose and they can freely leave. I will say not all people who claim to be Christians are Christians. I've seen other reasons why people chose Christianity, but they were for the wrong reason. True Christians chose Christ, that's how we get the name Christian. It's not a club you can join and then expect the benefits. Out side of salvation much in Christianity is earned.
Please explain to me what a true Christian is, you seem to have an idea about Christianity that's not true, like I asked please explain to me what a true Christian is?
GC
(December 13, 2014 at 10:22 pm)StealthySkeptic Wrote:(December 13, 2014 at 9:45 pm)Godschild Wrote:
That would be like you saying to me there's a girl that likes me but I'm never allowed to contact her directly, that if I leave her then she'll murder me, and that I somehow have blind faith that she probably doesn't exist.
That makes no sense in anyone's book, you do like to twist what others say and then make an argument from your twisted version, that's deceitful at best.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.