RE: Can you make a God claim?
January 9, 2015 at 11:57 am
(This post was last modified: January 9, 2015 at 12:09 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 8, 2015 at 11:07 am)ChadWooters Wrote: There are no empirical tests for mathematical proofs or the validity of logical propositions.Of course there are. If you want to test math empirically you can use stones in your hands instead of numbers. If you want to test the validity of logical propositions you can form a logical statement with a demonstrable conclusion known to you, in advance, and see how the yield of your statement aligns with what you have in front of you.
That is, in fact...how all of this was determined to begin with (and particularly with regards to logic how we determined when we had "the rules" right or wrong as we discovered them), and what either of those two systems was created in order to elucidate in the first place.
igh:All knowledge is observational -and therefore empirical- knowledge because we are observational "machines". We have no other choice, that's what our equipment does, and thus it is the -only- thing that our "knowledge" could -possibly- refer to. Logic and math are simply ways of communicating and assessing our observations in a manner that will help us to overcome some of the limits and foibles of our observational "machinery". They both attempt to describe the behavior of the world around us, based ultimately upon observations of -surprise surprise- the world around us. Logic is what it is because the universe appears to behave in the manner that it does. Math is what it is because the universe appears to behave in the manner that it does.
Where do you get this shit, anyway?
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