RE: Pope Opens Mouth; Inserts Foot
January 16, 2015 at 11:24 am
(This post was last modified: January 16, 2015 at 11:26 am by fr0d0.)
(January 16, 2015 at 6:48 am)Ben Davis Wrote: You've got a bit of a misunderstanding there Fr0d0, it's impossible, by definition, to separate secularism from state when applying separation of church & state because:
1. that's what secularism is
2. secularism isn't a religion (or even an ideology), it's a political position on one matter (establishment of religion)
If you were to separate secularism from state, you would be establishing religion which you say that you oppose. Your statement is a contradiction.
Thanks for the assist. I'd agree with your statement there... apart from the fact that this is what the guy was saying, as a representative of a secular group on national radio. "Secular" in his understanding has seemingly different meaning to the one you and I agree upon.
(January 16, 2015 at 10:31 am)robvalue Wrote: Are you going to back up this claim about people trying to making being offended illegal? Because you realise you're talking about "thought crime", right? Who the hell is trying to do that?
I was actually saying the opposite Rob.