(January 27, 2015 at 6:18 pm)SteveII Wrote: I don't see why it is confusing to you all that a book largely containing God's interaction with men might contain miracles. If God does something, it is not a result of a natural process: therefore supernatural, and that is the definition of a miracle.
Which is very convenient for you, I'm sure. But you don't get to define something as "something for which objective proof is impossible," and expect that to act as a rational reason to believe. If you can't provide evidence for the existence of miracles, then miracles are a claim that the bible makes that does not mesh with science.
Quote:So far I have heard creation. There is a huge body of discussion on whether Gen 1 is literal or not. Perhaps, as Augustine wrote that God planted the seeds...perhaps not. Either way, when and if science proves something, then we will know for certain. I am not going to debate on evolution because it does not matter to the question of the existence of God.
Evolution does matter to the question of whether the bible's claims all mesh with science, however, in that it fully shows that at least a few of the bible's claims regarding creation are false. As evolution is a verified and observed scientific fact, we can know for certain that the creation account as given in the bible is wrong.
Your response to that is just some mumbling about how the bible doesn't mean what the words say, which I mentioned before is a pathetic and baseless reply.
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