RE: A Conscious Universe
January 29, 2015 at 7:55 pm
(This post was last modified: January 29, 2015 at 8:15 pm by bennyboy.)
(January 29, 2015 at 7:28 pm)Cato Wrote:Maybe I'm an idealistic dualist(January 29, 2015 at 5:41 pm)bennyboy Wrote: The difference is that all these things are seen as expressions of ideas.
Why didn't you say Platonic Forms to begin with?

(January 29, 2015 at 7:10 pm)Cato Wrote:No. I'm saying that our limitations mean we interface with reality, WHATEVER it is, through symbolic representations, i.e. ideas.(January 29, 2015 at 5:33 pm)bennyboy Wrote: That's a lot of talk for "We don't perceive the universe as it is."
We do perceive the universe as it is, albeit limited by the range with which our sense organs evolved.
Wait a minute. Are you suggesting because our perception isn't exhaustive, e.g. sight across the entire electromagnetic spectrum, that this somehow supports idealism; monist or other?
This is the process of knowledge: we have experiences, we categorize and examine them, draw inferences, and test those inferences. Physicalism is itself an idea-- a representation of the commonalities in experience which lead most people away from solipsism. But establishing consistent relationships between experiences is not the same as proving that those commonalities are the source of experience.
One of you will have to explain how you go from objective experiential commonality ("You see that thing falling? Hey, so do I!") to the confident assertion that reality consists of physical mechanism and nothing else. That seems like a strange conclusion for purely experiential beings to arrive at.