RE: A Conscious Universe
January 30, 2015 at 7:46 pm
(This post was last modified: January 30, 2015 at 7:51 pm by bennyboy.)
(January 30, 2015 at 1:28 pm)Surgenator Wrote: Really? Well I'm one of the individuals who cannot see how this is possible. Can you explain how paint dries in an idealistic universe? Please don't you in physical terms like water molecules evaporating into the air. Please use ideas, as that is the fundamental elements of an idealistic universe.I think you are biased toward thinking idealism is "but a dream," with no logic or consistency to it, but this isn't right. It does NOT mean that there's no chemistry, or molecules, or no process of evaporation. It means that the paint, the process of drying, and the universe in which it dries are ultimately reducible only to concepts. A physicalist sees information as descriptive of real things, but an idealistic sees information AS the reality, and "things" as a virtual expression of the underlying information. Or, I should say, I see it that way, and assume other modern idealists probably do, too.
We describe all these things, including QM particles, the four basic interactions, etc. in mathematical forms. You've heard the saying "It's turtles, all the way down. . ." Well, I'd say that in a math-based idealistic reality, "It's math, all the way down." Eventually, you give up on finding "things," and just say "Fuck it. . . it's math only from here on in." And I think we are probably at that point right now with QM.