RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell?
February 1, 2015 at 11:21 am
(This post was last modified: February 1, 2015 at 11:31 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 31, 2015 at 12:37 am)Godschild Wrote: What kind of crazy crap have you dreamed up now, you are as delusional as they come.............okay? I'll have an order of cornbread. Hold the ceramics.
GC
Be prepared to own your own comments or keep them stuffed in your mouth, would be my advice.
Let me lay this out simply for you.
-If god is present in our future (for example.. is omni-present-), then that future - from some point of view- is already actualized. We are progressing towards it, it is determined.
-If god has knowledge of our future states (for example.....is omni-scient), then those future states -from some point of view- are already actualized. We are progressing towards them, they are predetermined.
Now sure, sure, you don't like the idea of "god" being the one determining this stuff...and that's okay....because it doesn't have to be god doing it for either of the above to hold. I don't mind allowing you that little comfort blanket : god's not doing shit...let alone predetermining things, granted...but this is irrelevant. The only relevant bit - regarding free will, is whether or not either can be done, by any means, regardless of who or what is doing it, or why it is that way, or how can be done.
What do you think, can "god" be there now, in the future. Does "god" know now, what the future holds?
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