(February 1, 2015 at 9:22 pm)bennyboy Wrote:I like what you said in bold but...at pun.
No. I would in fact say that in idealism, the fundamental "stuff" that makes up reality is a collection of ideas.
As for human limitations: well, it is through human-colored glasses that we must make our observations. Models are built through human observation, and failures in human observation render them less and less compatible with reality. So our inability to "render" ambiguities like photons into models which fit into our concept of geographical space means that the concept should be considered invalidated. . . kind of.
Well, if our intuitive conceptions cannot grasp the image that experiment and neat mathematical formalization convey, so much the worse for us. How does that justify the leap that the ideas themselves and not the things they attempt to define have some primary status as the fundamental constituents of matter or a deeper reality?
(February 1, 2015 at 9:22 pm)bennyboy Wrote: It's the advantage of idealism: nothing experienced is ultimately invalidated-- things are only brought into and out of context. So the content of dreams is not "false." It's a real experience inside the context of the dream, but not in the context of mundane life. And our mundane view of looking at the universe as a collection of volume-filling objects like desks and computers is not false, either; it's valid in the context of mundane life, but not in the context of QM. And quirky particles that evade our attempts to model them aren't invalid except in the context of our mundane view.What do you mean "nothing experienced is ultimately invalidated"? No one would dispute that people often confuse experience with objects in the mind only with objects that also exist outside of it, in the real world, so as to think the one phenomenon truly exists apart from their imagination. Simply to divide the two into "contexts" that are both mental, dismissing the physicality of objects as no more a qualifier for what exists objectively than the wisps of a dream, seems unhelpful, unjustified, and utterly confusing.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
