(February 2, 2015 at 7:55 pm)Surgenator Wrote:(February 2, 2015 at 7:43 pm)ManMachine Wrote: On a QM level there is no difference between 'stuff' and 'ideas'. That is a distinction that can only occur in the macro world.
MM
That is a bold claim, please show the evidence for it.
This is an extrapolation from available evidence. I accept there is talk at the moment that some fundamental particles may be divisible, notwithstanding that for the moment (ultimately it doesn't change my position just the make-up of the standard model) the standard model is considered to be the fundamental building blocks of the universe.
Electromagnetic force is part of the standard model and is part of what makes up of what we perceive of as 'matter' (such as the human brain), it also provides the electrical impulses that are our thoughts, however they manifest. Unless you are suggesting a more metaphysical construction, in which case I simply don't agree with you. That may seem like reductionism but the standard model is anything but simple.
MM
"The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci
"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)