(February 4, 2015 at 6:36 pm)ManMachine Wrote:(February 4, 2015 at 1:10 pm)Surgenator Wrote: I don't know what you mean in perpetual quantum flux. Are you saying show me that an electron is still an electron at some later time? Or are you expecting the electron to disappear from existence at any moment?
Sorry for the repeat reply my 'full edit' took a bit longer than I expected.
You defined 'things' as distinct from processes, like this;
"A process REQUIRES interactions, things do NOT."
I'm saying 'things' DO require interactions at a QM level constantly. I am asserting your definition of a 'thought process' as distinct from a 'thing' is entirely spurious at a QM level.
A 'thought process' is no different from any other process and every 'thing' is made up of Quantum processes that are continuous (a state of quantum flux). I then challenged you to identify anything that is not made up of quantum processes in order to validate your definition and prove your point.
As for that electron...
"... are you expecting the electron to disappear from existence at any moment?"
As I said above, I am, because that's exactly what they do.
MM
If your defining "quantum flux" as constantly interacting, then what is it continously interacting with? Consider an electron out in space far from away from everything. It is too far away to interact with anything. Does the electron stop existing? QM tells us no. For us to know it is there, we would need to interact with it. The interaction is not what makes the electron exist, it exist there independently of anything interacting with it. I don't know where you got the idea a QM particle is in a state of quantum flux.
Even if I grant you that processes and things are equavalent, a thought is orders of magnitude more complex of a process than the interactions a two QM particles have. So you reducing thought to a QM particle would still be fallacy of division.
