(February 11, 2015 at 10:36 am)Rhythm Wrote:If you take any arbitrary collection of physical systems, then they will all meet your definition of mind, since all matter is computing information about spin, mass, etc. Congratulations, you've proven that the universe is conscious!(February 10, 2015 at 11:41 pm)bennyboy Wrote: 1) You define mind AS brain function-- not a product of it. But you haven't defined exactly what it is about the brain that "IS" mind, except in very vague terms. Is it the information itself? Is it the sensation of a particular brain part firing? Is it a field generated by the electromagnetic fluctuations in neurons as signals travel through them? What is it, other than a general wave toward the brain, and a strong feeling that the mind must be "in there somewhere"?You're waiting for definitions and explanations that are truncated by considering mind -as- brain. I have defined exactly what about brain -is- mind, physical structures capable of and engaged in computation.
Quote:-if it isn't clear, I think I can give you your underlying idea world and it won't remove the brain as mind comment in the least......I actually feel that your framework would support a physical comp mind (provided that I say "and physical stuff is just a particular interaction of ideas/information" - and especially since it does not look to redefine computation in the least, any existing example of comp holds for this framework of yours).Great. So we agree.
