RE: A Conscious Universe
February 11, 2015 at 11:41 am
(This post was last modified: February 11, 2015 at 11:44 am by bennyboy.)
(February 11, 2015 at 11:35 am)Rhythm Wrote:That's fantastic! Link me the thread or blog in which you've achieved this, because I'd much rather read that than the stuff you are claiming in this thread.(February 11, 2015 at 11:28 am)bennyboy Wrote: No. If you are making positive assertions about what makes mind, then it would be better if you could identify whether any particular thing does or doesn't make mind, and how.I have identified how a known physical structure accomplishes an effect -as you describe it- and indicated that we possess a structure that meets (even exceeds) that requirement and -also- just happens to be active when we think about things. Wish I had more, but that's just the way it is.
Quote:Are you implying distance or separation? Careful.....Why do I need to be careful? Do you think I'm bothered by the idea of distance?
Quote:Why would I? Do you think I oppose the idea of 3D space? It's one of the most useful models I have for describing my mundane experience of the objects around me.Quote:The only difference is that I believe that under the hood, all those objects supervene on a reality which cannot be expressed unambiguously in three-dimensional space.You're teetering on the edge of three dimensional space in your comments above.....care to scrub the language?
(February 11, 2015 at 11:39 am)Rhythm Wrote:so. . . God?Quote:The only difference is that we organize the computation of computers in a way that is useful to us. It's all just stuff happening.Again, you''re simply wrong. The organization is required (though we aren't required as organizers), "stuff happening" is not computation.
Who says that any given system is or isn't organized, and that its state changes do/don't represent computation of information?
(February 11, 2015 at 11:39 am)Rhythm Wrote: The comp mind meets the requirements of a computational system whilst the rock does not.So it should be simple to explain in what way your "computational system" is distinct from a rock.