(February 11, 2015 at 11:52 am)Rhythm Wrote:So what? You were talking about people communicating on the internet, not QM particles or qualia.Quote:Why do I need to be careful? Do you think I'm bothered by the idea of distance?You should be avoiding as much invocation of "geometric space" as possible...don't you think....since you don't think that reality or mind can be described unambiguously within such?
Quote:Never happened.Quote:The only difference is that I believe that under the hood, all those objects supervene on a reality which cannot be expressed unambiguously in three-dimensional space.....so stop ambiguously describing things in this manner when asked about your own framework?
Quote:I dunno, man. A galaxy looks pretty organized to me. Photons traveling among galaxies seem a lot like information to me. I just want to know exactly what this "computation" you are talking about is. So far, you've said mind is not -in- the brain, it -is- the brain. Then you started talking about computational systems. Fine. What is a computational system, and how do you know whether it experiences qualia?Quote:so. . . God?So, organization...this is the part where I call you mean words, btw.
Quote:I don't think I know what you're talking about. The PC is a system created by people to organize and process information which they feed to it. Since it is a computational device, then you are, I believe saying it is conscious, right? The human brain is a system not created by people to organize and process information which someone feeds to it. . . unless that someone is God, I presume.Quote: and that its state changes do/don't represent computation of information?-he asked from his PC- which provides support for this statement definitively.