RE: Religiosity, Spirituality and the Moral
February 19, 2015 at 3:41 am
(This post was last modified: February 19, 2015 at 4:00 am by robvalue.)
It sounds to me ether as if you're saying you have chosen to believe in Christianity (and chosen a particular denomination). The thing is, belief isn't a choice, it's a state of mind. I could not choose to believe the bible is true, even if I wanted to. I could tell people that I believe it, but I would not actually believe it. So if someone truly believes something, they have a reason for believing it. It may be a rational reason, it may be an emotional reason. The person may not even consciously be aware of the reason.
I think you got me mixed up with someone else, but I'll put my points again briefly. If God chooses what morality is, then it's subjective. It depends on God. If it was objective, it would be independent of everything, including God. It would apply to God, and he could not change it.
And if we as humans follow a written code without question, we are not moral, we are amoral. But I'm sure you, like every christian, finds reasons to ignore parts of the bible that you don't agree with. I imagine you would say slavery is wrong, and stoning unruly children to death is wrong. By saying this, you have executed a moral judgement, demonstrating morals don't come from an external source. You just pick out those that happen to match up with yours, in other words you just use yours. In fact it's worse than that, because you may be pressured into following a bad moral instruction in the bible which is contrary to your morality. So your morality is worse off for having come into contact with religion. What you have is therefor a tainted and inflexible version of secular morality
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I think you got me mixed up with someone else, but I'll put my points again briefly. If God chooses what morality is, then it's subjective. It depends on God. If it was objective, it would be independent of everything, including God. It would apply to God, and he could not change it.
And if we as humans follow a written code without question, we are not moral, we are amoral. But I'm sure you, like every christian, finds reasons to ignore parts of the bible that you don't agree with. I imagine you would say slavery is wrong, and stoning unruly children to death is wrong. By saying this, you have executed a moral judgement, demonstrating morals don't come from an external source. You just pick out those that happen to match up with yours, in other words you just use yours. In fact it's worse than that, because you may be pressured into following a bad moral instruction in the bible which is contrary to your morality. So your morality is worse off for having come into contact with religion. What you have is therefor a tainted and inflexible version of secular morality
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