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Hate the belief, not the believer
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RE: Hate the belief, not the believer
February 19, 2015 at 11:42 am
(February 19, 2015 at 10:26 am)robvalue Wrote: That's right. Hating someone does not hurt them. So it really doesn't matter. What matters is actions. If that hate caused you to do something to them that you otherwise wouldn't, then that becomes a problem. As far as I'm concerned, thoughts don't hurt anyone.

So I agree, go ahead and hate someone who has hurt you. It's a natural reaction. I would also guess that trying to stifle that emotion may make it harder for you to deal with what has happened in the long term. And hate tends to fade over time, if it is not reignited.

I would argue that thoughts DO hurt someone - the person who is thinking them. You can't be happy or at peace at the same time you're feeling angry. That's the real value of forgiveness. It's for YOU - not for the person you are forgiving. You can think all the evil thoughts in the world about someone and it's not going to hurt them one iota. It WILL hurt you though.

Anger is indeed natural but it's not healthy. It can be tempered with intellect - especially if you accept the fact that you are only harming yourself with it. It's bad enough if someone wrongs you through some action but staying mad at them only compounds it.
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Hate the belief, not the believer

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Hate the belief, not the believer - by Losty - February 19, 2015 at 1:36 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by psychoslice - February 19, 2015 at 1:44 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Losty - February 19, 2015 at 3:19 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by psychoslice - February 19, 2015 at 3:31 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 12:22 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Hoopington - February 19, 2015 at 12:34 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 1:29 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Mister Agenda - February 19, 2015 at 1:36 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Brian37 - February 19, 2015 at 1:44 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Hoopington - February 20, 2015 at 5:11 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Mister Agenda - February 19, 2015 at 12:50 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 1:10 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Mister Agenda - February 19, 2015 at 1:20 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by KevinM1 - February 19, 2015 at 12:59 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Losty - February 19, 2015 at 1:09 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 3:33 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 12:08 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Mister Agenda - February 19, 2015 at 12:13 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Minimalist - February 19, 2015 at 1:24 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Mudhammam - February 19, 2015 at 1:33 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by vorlon13 - February 19, 2015 at 2:36 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Thumpalumpacus - February 19, 2015 at 3:14 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Cato - February 19, 2015 at 3:38 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Thumpalumpacus - February 19, 2015 at 6:14 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by robvalue - February 19, 2015 at 3:51 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Jacob(smooth) - February 19, 2015 at 5:36 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Violet - February 19, 2015 at 5:51 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by robvalue - February 19, 2015 at 6:16 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Thumpalumpacus - February 19, 2015 at 6:25 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Homeless Nutter - February 19, 2015 at 7:18 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Grandizer - February 19, 2015 at 9:08 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Losty - February 19, 2015 at 9:50 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Grandizer - February 19, 2015 at 10:03 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 12:37 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Mister Agenda - February 19, 2015 at 12:55 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by robvalue - February 19, 2015 at 9:37 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Homeless Nutter - February 19, 2015 at 10:02 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by robvalue - February 19, 2015 at 10:26 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by AFTT47 - February 19, 2015 at 11:42 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Mudhammam - February 19, 2015 at 10:48 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Dystopia - February 19, 2015 at 11:16 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Minimalist - February 19, 2015 at 11:31 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Losty - February 19, 2015 at 11:49 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by AFTT47 - February 19, 2015 at 12:21 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Mister Agenda - February 19, 2015 at 12:01 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by TubbyTubby - February 19, 2015 at 12:36 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 12:52 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Hoopington - February 19, 2015 at 1:18 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Brian37 - February 19, 2015 at 1:20 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by TubbyTubby - February 19, 2015 at 12:58 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Brian37 - February 19, 2015 at 1:08 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Losty - February 19, 2015 at 1:25 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 1:58 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Brian37 - February 19, 2015 at 2:05 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 4:00 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Mister Agenda - February 20, 2015 at 3:15 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Homeless Nutter - February 19, 2015 at 2:17 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by robvalue - February 19, 2015 at 1:27 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by robvalue - February 19, 2015 at 1:37 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by watchamadoodle - February 19, 2015 at 1:45 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by The Valkyrie - February 19, 2015 at 2:06 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Brian37 - February 19, 2015 at 2:15 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by robvalue - February 19, 2015 at 2:08 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Losty - February 19, 2015 at 3:46 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Dystopia - February 19, 2015 at 3:49 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by emilynghiem - February 19, 2015 at 4:04 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 5:05 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Brian37 - February 19, 2015 at 6:13 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 11:04 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by emilynghiem - February 19, 2015 at 3:56 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Losty - February 19, 2015 at 5:22 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by emilynghiem - February 19, 2015 at 5:58 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Losty - February 20, 2015 at 12:00 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Mudhammam - February 20, 2015 at 12:21 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 20, 2015 at 12:54 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Losty - February 20, 2015 at 1:07 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 20, 2015 at 11:51 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Brian37 - February 20, 2015 at 12:06 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Losty - February 20, 2015 at 12:22 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Mudhammam - February 20, 2015 at 12:28 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Brian37 - February 20, 2015 at 9:12 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 20, 2015 at 2:11 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Brian37 - February 20, 2015 at 3:14 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Losty - February 20, 2015 at 3:19 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 20, 2015 at 8:40 pm

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