RE: Hate the belief, not the believer
February 19, 2015 at 12:22 pm
(This post was last modified: February 19, 2015 at 12:31 pm by Godscreated.)
(February 19, 2015 at 3:19 am)Losty Wrote:(February 19, 2015 at 1:44 am)psychoslice Wrote:
My point was that some people just have their beliefs and even though those beliefs are terrible it's none of my business, but some people use their beliefs to justify hideous actions. So, I wonder if at that point I am justified in blaming the person instead of just the religion. Should people be held responsible for their actions even when they were driven by well meaning religious intentions based on their personal beliefs?
Hate only harms you, your hate has no real effect on the one you hate, so why do it. For those such as ISIS our hate want change them and could possibly inspire them.
GC
(February 19, 2015 at 12:13 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:(February 19, 2015 at 12:08 pm)Godschild Wrote: You might want to start reading what's said a little closer and without a tilt to the bias. They're several here that hate Christians and they've said so.
GC
So let's have a quote so we know who you're talking about, and then let them explain themselves. Min doesn't count, he hates everyone.
I'm not going to go looking for those posts, if you do not believe me fine, if you do fine. I'm not trying to lie about this, but you be the judge.
GC
(February 19, 2015 at 9:50 am)Losty Wrote:(February 19, 2015 at 9:08 am)Irrational Wrote: If I had to hate someone, it wouldn't be for merely their beliefs but how they treat me. That's if I had to hate someone.
I don't literally mean to hate them. I just say it because I took a popular Christian phrase "hate the sin, not the sinner" and made it secular. I am trying to get a feel on how far a person can go action wise and I can still say "well, yea, but they're deluded by their beliefs. It's not their fault".
At what point does the personal responsibility kick in? I just...I have a bad habit of making excuses for people who do crappy things to me. Usually there's a pretty clear line, but when it comes to religion I have a harder time.
Why not have a discussion with them about how they make you feel they may not be aware of how you feel.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
