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Hate the belief, not the believer
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RE: Hate the belief, not the believer
(February 19, 2015 at 12:22 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(February 19, 2015 at 9:50 am)Losty Wrote: I don't literally mean to hate them. I just say it because I took a popular Christian phrase "hate the sin, not the sinner" and made it secular. I am trying to get a feel on how far a person can go action wise and I can still say "well, yea, but they're deluded by their beliefs. It's not their fault".
At what point does the personal responsibility kick in? I just...I have a bad habit of making excuses for people who do crappy things to me. Usually there's a pretty clear line, but when it comes to religion I have a harder time.

Why not have a discussion with them about how they make you feel they may not be aware of how you feel.

GC

This is probably the only thing I will ever agree with GC about. If you haven't honestly expressed how hurt you are by these people's actions, you should. If you have, and they persist, or if you can't due to circumstances, then... *hug*

Regarding your larger question, people should always be held accountable for their actions, IMO. Intent is only part of the equation. Like the saying goes, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions*." It shouldn't matter that harmful actions are stemming from good intentions; harm is still being done.

*No, GC, we still don't believe in hell. The saying is a metaphor illustrating that the thought behind a deed doesn't excuse the deed itself, and how people tend to simply rely on meaning well instead of doing well.
"I was thirsty for everything, but blood wasn't my style" - Live, "Voodoo Lady"
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Hate the belief, not the believer - by Losty - February 19, 2015 at 1:36 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by psychoslice - February 19, 2015 at 1:44 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Losty - February 19, 2015 at 3:19 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by psychoslice - February 19, 2015 at 3:31 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 12:22 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Hoopington - February 19, 2015 at 12:34 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 1:29 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Mister Agenda - February 19, 2015 at 1:36 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Brian37 - February 19, 2015 at 1:44 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Hoopington - February 20, 2015 at 5:11 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Mister Agenda - February 19, 2015 at 12:50 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 1:10 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Mister Agenda - February 19, 2015 at 1:20 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by KevinM1 - February 19, 2015 at 12:59 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Losty - February 19, 2015 at 1:09 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 3:33 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 12:08 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Mister Agenda - February 19, 2015 at 12:13 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Minimalist - February 19, 2015 at 1:24 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Mudhammam - February 19, 2015 at 1:33 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by vorlon13 - February 19, 2015 at 2:36 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Thumpalumpacus - February 19, 2015 at 3:14 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Cato - February 19, 2015 at 3:38 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Thumpalumpacus - February 19, 2015 at 6:14 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by robvalue - February 19, 2015 at 3:51 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Jacob(smooth) - February 19, 2015 at 5:36 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Violet - February 19, 2015 at 5:51 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by robvalue - February 19, 2015 at 6:16 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Thumpalumpacus - February 19, 2015 at 6:25 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Homeless Nutter - February 19, 2015 at 7:18 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Grandizer - February 19, 2015 at 9:08 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Losty - February 19, 2015 at 9:50 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Grandizer - February 19, 2015 at 10:03 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 12:37 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Mister Agenda - February 19, 2015 at 12:55 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by robvalue - February 19, 2015 at 9:37 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Homeless Nutter - February 19, 2015 at 10:02 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by robvalue - February 19, 2015 at 10:26 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by AFTT47 - February 19, 2015 at 11:42 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Mudhammam - February 19, 2015 at 10:48 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Dystopia - February 19, 2015 at 11:16 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Minimalist - February 19, 2015 at 11:31 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Losty - February 19, 2015 at 11:49 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by AFTT47 - February 19, 2015 at 12:21 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Mister Agenda - February 19, 2015 at 12:01 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by TubbyTubby - February 19, 2015 at 12:36 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 12:52 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Hoopington - February 19, 2015 at 1:18 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Brian37 - February 19, 2015 at 1:20 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by TubbyTubby - February 19, 2015 at 12:58 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Brian37 - February 19, 2015 at 1:08 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Losty - February 19, 2015 at 1:25 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 1:58 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Brian37 - February 19, 2015 at 2:05 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 4:00 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Mister Agenda - February 20, 2015 at 3:15 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Homeless Nutter - February 19, 2015 at 2:17 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by robvalue - February 19, 2015 at 1:27 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by robvalue - February 19, 2015 at 1:37 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by watchamadoodle - February 19, 2015 at 1:45 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by The Valkyrie - February 19, 2015 at 2:06 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Brian37 - February 19, 2015 at 2:15 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by robvalue - February 19, 2015 at 2:08 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Losty - February 19, 2015 at 3:46 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Dystopia - February 19, 2015 at 3:49 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by emilynghiem - February 19, 2015 at 4:04 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 5:05 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Brian37 - February 19, 2015 at 6:13 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 11:04 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by emilynghiem - February 19, 2015 at 3:56 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Losty - February 19, 2015 at 5:22 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by emilynghiem - February 19, 2015 at 5:58 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Losty - February 20, 2015 at 12:00 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Mudhammam - February 20, 2015 at 12:21 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 20, 2015 at 12:54 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Losty - February 20, 2015 at 1:07 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 20, 2015 at 11:51 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Brian37 - February 20, 2015 at 12:06 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Losty - February 20, 2015 at 12:22 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Mudhammam - February 20, 2015 at 12:28 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Brian37 - February 20, 2015 at 9:12 am
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 20, 2015 at 2:11 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Brian37 - February 20, 2015 at 3:14 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Losty - February 20, 2015 at 3:19 pm
RE: Hate the belief, not the believer - by Godschild - February 20, 2015 at 8:40 pm

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