(March 23, 2015 at 12:53 pm)AtlasS2 Wrote: If it is God, then whatever God decides to do is pure is it not? For Christians God is the standard. This means He gets to do whatever He wants. He does not live by standards Eg: There is a universal standard of 'pureity or goodness' that God must meet, to be judge pure by man.
Quote:Such a god, that has no code of ethics like the heathen gods, is indeed not worthy of respect or warship.Clearly God does have 'ethics' as the are written in both the Old and New Testaments.
But, again just because those 'ethics' do not align themselves to what you or your belief system think ethics should look like does not mean He is without them.
Determining 'ethics' is not the role for man. This is however is the role Atheists and the creators of false gods do. The worshiper of God's role is to follow the ethics set by Him, not to judge them.
Quote:Indeed god does what he wants. But the respect wasn't injected from the fact of him having super abilities, the respect is forced & injected, from the law of ethics he wrote upon himself before writing it on humans.Just so we are clear.. Are you saying that we should not respect God because He has ablities we do not. That we should respect God because of the ethics and law he wrote?
If this is the case i disagree. This is no different than what the atheist do now. They do not respect the authority of God, because He is the creator. They respect their version of 'morality' first then theyhonor themselves for creating such high and holier then God rules.
This is basically what you are saying we should do with a slight difference. respect the principle or rule of law first, and God for writting it.
That gives complete power to the ones who tend and teach the law. This did not work with the Jews, it does not work for radical Islam, The Dark age Christian Church, nor does it work for Atheist. why would it work anywhere? The problem with that is it gives the power and authority of God to people, Priests. Imams, or law makers. That kind of power corrupts absolutly, and always ends with Man using religion to manipulate his brothers into doing his will rather than God's.
We should respect God First because He has created EVERYTHING, and all of Creation is under Him. This means He is the beginning and End of all things which literally means whatever He says is Good, is Good, and whatever He says is bad is bad. No matter what we think should be good or bad.
If God wants to have sex then it is right for Him to do so (Understand I am not saying He has or will) I am just not one to tell God what He can and can not do. Again to judge God as you have puts you (the judge) in a position of Power over God. Otherwise you could not say God can or can not do this 'thing.'
Quote:Yes, nobody questions his ability in doing what he wants. The Quran asserted it millions of times. Yet what he wanted, and what he chose, is that law of ethics, that universal standard, that he deemed anybody who denies it with hell.This contradicts what you just said.
You said God could not have a sexual relationship. That He would be no different than a greek god.. Now you say God can do whatever He wants... Which is it? If God wanted to have sex could he or are these 'ethics' you speak of greater than your understanding of God?
If your system of belief what has greater power your understanding of the law or your understanding of God?
If your law is greater than God can not have sex.
If your God is Greater your God can do anything he wants including having Sex. (which BTW is the case of the God of Christianity as it is pointed out over and over and over again on this website.)
Quote:The same standard, that when humans broke, they turned into countries & armies armed to the teeth to corrupt earth & burn with atomic weapons.No idea what you mean here
Quote:Not if god himself created it. God is then greater than that standard, since he is the one who wrote it & created it out of nothing.If then God is greater than a given standard can He do something outside that standard, or rather your understanding of it?
Example We claim to both worship the God of abraham. That God told Moses and the Jews You shall not Murder, yet God orders the complete geneocide of complete nations.. This is what I mean by God being greater than the standard of 'ethics.'
Is your idea of God greater than the 'ethic' you pointed out that says He can not have sex?
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