RE: What am I atheist or what but not theist?
March 29, 2015 at 8:25 am
(This post was last modified: March 29, 2015 at 8:32 am by robvalue.)
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I would say you are an agnostic atheist. If someone asks you if you believe in god, the only answers are yes or no. If you are convinced there is a god, then you are a theist. If you're not, and it sounds definitely like you are not convinced, then you are an atheist. This doesn't mean you are saying you believe there isn't a god, or are claiming to know there is no god. An agnostic atheist makes no claims of belief or knowledge, just that they reject the claim that there is a god. Agnostic means "I don't know", this addresses the separate question of what you know rather than what you believe. Atheism only addresses belief. Only if you say you are a gnostic atheist are you saying you know there is no god.
Maybe my website can help you, I go into some detail about this, please click below:
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But really it's up to you what you are comfortable with. By the commonly used definitions in the atheist community, you are clearly an atheist.
Please ask if anything is unclear!
Regarding that link to the Dawkins scale, I don't quite agree with what they are saying. For number 4, you are no longer convinced there is a god, so you are an atheist. 4 upwards is atheist as far as I'm concerned, not "leaning towards" atheist. This is not a criticism of you at all Norman! Just I don't think it matches up with the widely used language. This is my opinion anyhow For example, if I'm about to flip a coin and I ask if you believe it will come up heads, you wouldn't say yes. You'd say you are not convinced it will come up heads.
I would say you are an agnostic atheist. If someone asks you if you believe in god, the only answers are yes or no. If you are convinced there is a god, then you are a theist. If you're not, and it sounds definitely like you are not convinced, then you are an atheist. This doesn't mean you are saying you believe there isn't a god, or are claiming to know there is no god. An agnostic atheist makes no claims of belief or knowledge, just that they reject the claim that there is a god. Agnostic means "I don't know", this addresses the separate question of what you know rather than what you believe. Atheism only addresses belief. Only if you say you are a gnostic atheist are you saying you know there is no god.
Maybe my website can help you, I go into some detail about this, please click below:
Atheist/Theist
Agnostic/Gnostic
But really it's up to you what you are comfortable with. By the commonly used definitions in the atheist community, you are clearly an atheist.
Please ask if anything is unclear!
Regarding that link to the Dawkins scale, I don't quite agree with what they are saying. For number 4, you are no longer convinced there is a god, so you are an atheist. 4 upwards is atheist as far as I'm concerned, not "leaning towards" atheist. This is not a criticism of you at all Norman! Just I don't think it matches up with the widely used language. This is my opinion anyhow For example, if I'm about to flip a coin and I ask if you believe it will come up heads, you wouldn't say yes. You'd say you are not convinced it will come up heads.
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