2016 Elections

[Brian37]

I admit I don't get giggly and excited at the prospect of voting for Hillary.  But Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders aren't going to run as the Democratic nominee unless Hillary has an untimely stroke or something else comes up to make her unfit to run.  So the two I would love to vote for will have to wait for their season or for a clear path to the democratic nomination.  They won't split the vote and run with a third party.  
Like me, they're practical.  Incremental change is about all our botched system of government is capable of, and if you try to vote for anything other than the Democratic party you'll risk giving up even that much improvement.  Holding your nose is the only way to go.  Or you can ignore history and bring on incremental worsening instead.

Hillary has shown she is more than willing to drag us to the right than act like anything resembling a Democrat. As I said before, I'd rather have a Republican win than Clinton because at least the hypocritical Democrat supporters would turn against the BS policy she would have supported (when they would support it just because she did).

Obama got pulled too. The ACA could have been single payer or universal but the GOP watered it down, it is still better than what we had. And he's also done some trade deals which I don't like.

But like others have said Dems are slowing this shit down. I think it is up to democratic voters to do a better job at showing up to the polls in all elections local and national and also think long term. We also need to take the GOPs cold war "dems are Stalin lovers" cold war crap trying  to paint us as anti private sector. And we need to stop their doomsday foreign policy warmongering meme too.