RE: If I were an Atheist
May 3, 2015 at 10:19 pm
(This post was last modified: May 3, 2015 at 10:24 pm by robvalue.)
But what the fuck is a divine being? A god? If I ask anyone to define them, all I generally get is a list of things it is not, in other words it exists less and less so that wherever science may find it, it's not there either.
Some people say the sun is God. And the sun exists. So I'm a theist in regard to those people. That's answered the question, some gods do exist. The problem is that there appears to be no restrictions on what is and isn't a god, is and isn't a divine being, is and isn't a deity, and so forth. Until it's defined to the point where it actually means anything at all, it's not a coherent claim. Who has the authority to decide what is and isn't an acceptable idea of a god? Since we have no experience of or data about one, except putting that label onto things we know exist, how can we agree that what someone says is a "God" or not?
Just the vague concept of "God" will vary from each person to the next. And the problem is that even if the God they think they are imagining turned up in front of them, they wouldn't be able to pick it out from a very powerful alien. They can just point at either and go, "That's my god!". I can't say they are right or wrong, because their definition is so vague as to cover whatever they want. But usually their definition would actually stop them being able to see it or in fact detect it in any way at all without using special pleading. Which is weird considering Eve had him actually standing in front of her staring at her tits.
Some people say the sun is God. And the sun exists. So I'm a theist in regard to those people. That's answered the question, some gods do exist. The problem is that there appears to be no restrictions on what is and isn't a god, is and isn't a divine being, is and isn't a deity, and so forth. Until it's defined to the point where it actually means anything at all, it's not a coherent claim. Who has the authority to decide what is and isn't an acceptable idea of a god? Since we have no experience of or data about one, except putting that label onto things we know exist, how can we agree that what someone says is a "God" or not?
Just the vague concept of "God" will vary from each person to the next. And the problem is that even if the God they think they are imagining turned up in front of them, they wouldn't be able to pick it out from a very powerful alien. They can just point at either and go, "That's my god!". I can't say they are right or wrong, because their definition is so vague as to cover whatever they want. But usually their definition would actually stop them being able to see it or in fact detect it in any way at all without using special pleading. Which is weird considering Eve had him actually standing in front of her staring at her tits.
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