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My story! I am an Ex-Muslim, became and Atheist. I was visited by an Angel of God.
RE: I am an Ex-Muslim, became and Atheist. I was visited by an Angel of God.
(May 9, 2015 at 3:52 am)robvalue Wrote: ...The language used in the bible seems to suggest that people at that time put massive stock in dreams having significance, and if someone had a dream but said it was a vision, a prophecy or God talking to them, people simply accepted it. ... People were very superstitious back then, even more so than now.

Dreams had symbolism, sure. The wheat sheafs bend toward Joseph in Joseph's dream because Joseph will soon be the vizier of Egypt (Gen. 37:6-8, 41:41). But after the fact. Whether a person having a dream would be accepted as bearing the word of God is less certain. I doubt just anyone could make such a claim and the "rules of eligibility," as it were, are lost to us today. The word "superstitious" is pejorative, it conjures up visions of people cowering in caves or jumping at a bird's shadow. People certainly did believe a lot of stuff we don't buy today; they remained blissfully unaware of today's hypothesis-experiment cycle as gold standard of truth (with a few Greek exceptions). This could make them vulnerable to confirmatory bias and other peeves regarding a nexus of spirit & Mother Nature.

Sometimes even the "superstitious" label is justified, as in the Salem witch trials or cargo cults on Vanuatu. Most of the time, though, I think ancient people had about as much horse sense as we do. Engineers learned things by experiment albeit with minimal theory. More importantly, though, religious symbols were keys to power for those who possessed them.

We live in an age of mass literacy where anyone can get a dream book, have a dream, and put a religious interpretation on it. Back then, only a few elite folks could do this. You, Prince, and I would all be completely shut out of the dream game because we would be peasants bending over grain all day in the hot sun, while the dreamers sat in the shade writing our production figures down.  Wink
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RE: My story![...] - by Homeless Nutter - May 8, 2015 at 9:39 am
Sleep paralysis is a better explanation - by JuliaL - May 8, 2015 at 11:17 am
RE: My story! I am an Ex-Muslim - by JuliaL - May 8, 2015 at 12:16 pm
Re: - by Iroscato - May 8, 2015 at 3:26 pm
RE: My story! I am an Ex-Muslim - by JuliaL - May 8, 2015 at 6:23 pm
RE: I am an Ex-Muslim, became and Atheist. I was visited by an Angel of God. - by Hatshepsut - May 9, 2015 at 8:43 am
RE: My story! I am an Ex-Muslim - by JuliaL - May 11, 2015 at 7:23 pm

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