(May 13, 2015 at 1:46 pm)Brian37 Wrote: The title of the thread is misleading. Does not matter which you argue, still would not make a god real or magic real. It's like arguing which is more real the first Harry Potter book or the movie version of the book. Would it make it true boys could fly around on brooms if it was dubbed in Arabic or Japanese?
It's like asking who is more real Dark Vader or Captain Kirk?
(May 13, 2015 at 3:13 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: It always pays to remember that the Bible is a fairly recent book. In fact it's one of the earliest real books. But even so it's only been in its current format for only a few hundred years. The basic ideas are consistent in all versions and translations.
If by consistently wrong yes. But no it is hardly consistent. The NT and OT constantly contradict each other and not even the stories of the begats match or his death for that matter. Not to mention all the scientific absurdities claimed by that comic book.
It is always important to remember that holy books are reflections of the follower's desires. Mormonism and Scientology are also new as well. Doesn't matter how young or old a holy book or writing is, they are all still man made human inventions and they do not replace science nor can the be even called objective history books.
And starting with Joe Smith himself, and all in the Mormon hierarchy ever since, the 'drift rate' of the Book of Mormon and all the revelations is orders of magnitude larger than in mainstream Bible-ism. Dead Sea scrolls have recognizable versions of most of the OT books, should the BoM and their revelations continue to mutate at the same rate for another 1850 years, they will be TOTALLY unrecognizable from what we have preserved from the 1830s.
Additionally, the early Mormons were not shy in accusing the Catholics in particular that their predecessors in the early years of that church freely corrupted all of the Bible. That there is any concurrence with the DSS and the current Bible (in most all its forms except the Joe Smith Revised version, tee hee) is another in an VERY, VERY long list of failed predictions coming from the Mormon church.
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I'm aware I bring up the Mormons frequently, as it turns out, the Mormons have FUCKED virtually everything doctrinaire they've ever come up with, hence their being frequently cited. I'd venture to say, if the past is prologue, the Mormons are continuing to this day to fuck up far faster than I or even an army of me could ever keep up with.
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