(June 4, 2015 at 12:42 pm)Drich Wrote: It's real simple Lax.. there are three steps out line by Christ to receive the Holy Spirit. Ask, seek Knock. Now if one seek and does not knock, or knocks and ask, but does not seek then they have not followed the steps. like wise if on asks and seek but does not knock (As is the case with everyone on this web site who has ever claimed to follow the directions of Luke 11 but did not find God by their own admission) Then they did not follow the outline Christ tells us to follow in Luke 11. So then if you all can admit to not knocking, then why is it you would expect to find God?
Yeah, repeating the problematic argument doesn't make it less so: when you define the final "knock" step as "finding god," then there's no failure state for the test, making it unfalsifiable and not a good test. I don't think I've ever seen you answer for this glaring flaw, you seem to just want to ignore it and continue lying by saying there's a good test for god.
Quote:Before you met your husband, did you know his name, did you know his DOB? did you know he existed in any way? Or did you see those who were married and say to yourself I want to find a spouce even though you may not have known that your 'soul mate' even existed.. or maybe existed and went to war and never came home or something tragic like that...
Did you marry the first person you went out on a date with? did you crown the first person to bring you flowers your soul mate? or did you keep asking and seeking (this is what Jesus Identifies as knocking) till you found the guy you ultimately married? If you had to go through 100 A-holes to find the guy your with now would you do that? or would you give up and just not have married?
The difference is that marriage is not a concept we need to test, as we already have plenty of evidence that it exists; we know that it's possible to fall in love and get married from the outset. Conversely, you're posing this A/S/K nonsense as a test to discover that god exists, a being that we have no idea whether it's possible or not. Given that the test is to find god, you cannot simply add "find god" as the final step of the test, because that is ridiculous. It'd be like if I gave you a test to find Brahma, and the last step was "find Brahma," would you take that at all seriously? Would you even consider taking that test?
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