(June 5, 2015 at 2:22 pm)Drich Wrote:(June 5, 2015 at 12:18 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Oh, you mean like the Relationship we can build with God.. I don't use the word faith to describe that aspect of the relationship. The only faith needed is the faith it takes to just A/S/K. The rest as you say is built on " built upon actual experience and probability."
If you really had a relationship with god, you wouldn't be so dependent on the Bible. We read books about people we don't know. No one can write a book about my father and tell me he told them what to write so I should forget everything I think I know about him from my experience with him. Who is my father? My father is the universe. Who is my mother? My mother is the Earth. I have a personal relationship with them. I can stand on the beach and see the curve of the horizon where the water meats the sky, so I don't need Christopher Columbus to tell me the planet is round.
I cannot have a relationship with something no one has ever seen or heard, not even you. If you say you have heard god speak to you, the men in the long white coats will come and put you away in a locked room with padded walls.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.