(July 6, 2015 at 9:10 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote:(July 6, 2015 at 2:55 am)snowtracks Wrote: The first sentence is doctrinally incorrect. Beyond that, any action by God to shield humans eternally from any possibility to rebel against his authority would severely limit if not eliminate altogether humanity's expression of free will. True freedom of human will implies that some people (or groups of people) can actually chose to asset their will over God's will.
Not according to this doctrine:
18"Truly I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven. 19"Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven. 20"For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst." Matthew 18:18-20 (emphasis mine)
Or this one:
7"Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8"For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened." Matthew 7:7
If your argument is that this is an incomplete view of the doctrine on how god answers prayer, then I'd say there must be some other scripture in your bible that directly contradicts these two, and probably several more. If god's word is so perfect, why does it contradict itself?
Actually it doesn't all you need to 'fix' your broken understanding of these verses is context.
In your first cherry picked group of scripture Jesus is speaking about Forgiveness. In the 2nd Jesus specifically speaking about the Holy Spirit. Two different principles two different approaches.
It only seems contradictory if one blindly assumes Jesus is speak about how to get wishes granted.
