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Islam is the real deal
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RE: Islam is the real deal
(July 12, 2015 at 5:03 am)robvalue Wrote: You are saying either these guys found the knowledge themselves, or else it was God. That is not justified. There could be an infinite number of other ways they got the knowledge. Maybe it was a magic speaking toad! Maybe it was aliens! Maybe it was sheer luck! Maybe some weird chemicals in the air gave them temporary amazing knowledge! How did you rule them all out? This amounts to an argument from incredulity, "I can't think of any other way that they got the information." Truth doesn't depend on your ability to imagine it. I don't need to actually know how they got the information to point out the problems in your reasoning. The best answer is, "I don't know how they got it." For more about this see, below:

Im not trying to be annoying, I'm trying to help you improve your critical thinking, if you are interested. Religion relies on very broken logic to succeed, which I am happy to point out at every turn.

As for Allah, worship is an obscene concept. It's degrading for me, and it's pointless for a god. The only reason to do it is to beg for better treatment after I'm dead. I'm not doing that, even if I did think there was anything after death. Also, any being that demands worship is not worthy of it.

Considering creating the uninverse would take literally no effort on the god's part, I think a simple "thank you" is sufficient. If God is good, he will be pleased with me living the best life I can and caring for others. If God is not good, I'm screwed no matter what I do.
Ok thats a nice way to put things and it is very solid but it is not scientific it is more like philosophy nevertheless it is well established I must say so it miggt be if we forget that quran has mentioned Manny ethics and human behavior that any toad or dragon would never know about humans . And when mohammad talked to his people they refused to believe so it is not smarting gaz and we can go on and on . I know that you will say that is not the thing but the idea is why it is allah in particular I why not anything else that we can not imagine I will tell then that is allah . He has no image no one can imagine how he looks and I dont care if you call him allah or anything els the essential thing is you conclude his existence.

(July 12, 2015 at 7:19 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(July 11, 2015 at 7:43 pm)huss88ein Wrote: There are many scintific facts in quran that would proof to any one that quran is the word of god and god exists one .
one of them is the embryology of humans who drove many doctors to believe that quran is indeed the word of god.
Ready to answer any questions

That would be why Muslim countries are the most technologically advanced in the world..........................................hang on a minute!
Well that is a weird way to approach things you measure the right and wrong in scriptures not people be logical in your approach many scientists were muslims and many were christians and many were atheists it doesn't have anything to do with religion
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Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 11, 2015 at 7:43 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by StuW - July 11, 2015 at 7:49 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Minimalist - July 11, 2015 at 7:52 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by JesusHChrist - July 11, 2015 at 7:56 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Jackalope - July 11, 2015 at 7:57 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by rexbeccarox - July 11, 2015 at 7:58 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Thumpalumpacus - July 11, 2015 at 7:59 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Crossless1 - July 11, 2015 at 8:03 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Minimalist - July 11, 2015 at 8:04 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 11, 2015 at 8:18 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Jenny A - July 11, 2015 at 8:33 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Bob Kelso - July 11, 2015 at 8:34 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Minimalist - July 11, 2015 at 8:43 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Excited Penguin - July 13, 2015 at 5:22 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 11, 2015 at 8:52 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by tjakey - July 11, 2015 at 9:45 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Mudhammam - July 11, 2015 at 8:55 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Jackalope - July 11, 2015 at 8:58 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Mudhammam - July 11, 2015 at 9:04 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Minimalist - July 11, 2015 at 9:00 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Minimalist - July 11, 2015 at 9:11 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 10:21 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by ignoramus - July 11, 2015 at 10:10 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Longhorn - July 12, 2015 at 11:44 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 11, 2015 at 10:21 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Mudhammam - July 12, 2015 at 10:55 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by JuliaL - July 12, 2015 at 7:48 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Cato - July 11, 2015 at 10:27 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 11, 2015 at 10:29 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Aractus - July 13, 2015 at 7:50 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Regina - July 13, 2015 at 7:52 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Angrboda - July 11, 2015 at 10:55 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Thumpalumpacus - July 15, 2015 at 11:33 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Minimalist - July 11, 2015 at 11:01 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Iroscato - July 11, 2015 at 11:04 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 11, 2015 at 11:08 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Minimalist - July 12, 2015 at 2:26 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by rado84 - July 12, 2015 at 1:02 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Silver - July 12, 2015 at 1:28 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 12, 2015 at 2:33 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 12, 2015 at 4:12 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Napoléon - July 12, 2015 at 7:42 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Longhorn - July 12, 2015 at 4:58 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 12, 2015 at 5:03 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by ignoramus - July 12, 2015 at 5:13 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 12, 2015 at 5:16 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by ignoramus - July 12, 2015 at 5:50 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 12, 2015 at 6:43 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 12, 2015 at 6:51 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by downbeatplumb - July 12, 2015 at 7:19 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by paulpablo - July 12, 2015 at 7:56 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by paulpablo - July 12, 2015 at 8:16 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Cato - July 12, 2015 at 8:02 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Redbeard The Pink - July 12, 2015 at 8:40 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Dragonetti - July 12, 2015 at 8:59 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by ReptilianPeon - July 12, 2015 at 10:31 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by ReptilianPeon - July 13, 2015 at 1:59 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by popsthebuilder - July 12, 2015 at 11:20 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Longhorn - July 12, 2015 at 11:44 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Minimalist - July 12, 2015 at 11:23 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by popsthebuilder - July 12, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by popsthebuilder - July 12, 2015 at 11:45 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by ReptilianPeon - July 12, 2015 at 11:50 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Longhorn - July 12, 2015 at 12:10 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 12, 2015 at 12:15 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Longhorn - July 12, 2015 at 12:30 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by SteelCurtain - July 12, 2015 at 12:38 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Longhorn - July 12, 2015 at 12:57 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 12, 2015 at 1:04 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by popsthebuilder - July 12, 2015 at 2:06 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Cato - July 12, 2015 at 2:15 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Longhorn - July 12, 2015 at 2:18 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Longhorn - July 12, 2015 at 2:17 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by popsthebuilder - July 12, 2015 at 2:19 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Longhorn - July 12, 2015 at 2:22 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by downbeatplumb - July 12, 2015 at 2:27 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by popsthebuilder - July 12, 2015 at 2:32 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Longhorn - July 12, 2015 at 2:35 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 12, 2015 at 3:08 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Minimalist - July 12, 2015 at 3:14 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by The Valkyrie - July 12, 2015 at 3:16 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 12, 2015 at 3:30 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by The Valkyrie - July 12, 2015 at 4:11 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by TubbyTubby - July 12, 2015 at 3:39 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by TubbyTubby - July 12, 2015 at 3:40 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 12, 2015 at 4:04 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 12, 2015 at 4:20 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Mudhammam - July 12, 2015 at 4:35 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Longhorn - July 12, 2015 at 4:28 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by TubbyTubby - July 12, 2015 at 4:37 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 12, 2015 at 4:39 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by TubbyTubby - July 12, 2015 at 5:12 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by ignoramus - July 12, 2015 at 5:51 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 12, 2015 at 5:55 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by TubbyTubby - July 12, 2015 at 6:00 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 12, 2015 at 6:16 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by TubbyTubby - July 12, 2015 at 6:42 pm
Islam is the real deal - by TubbyTubby - July 12, 2015 at 6:46 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 12, 2015 at 6:54 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 13, 2015 at 8:14 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by TubbyTubby - July 12, 2015 at 7:02 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 12, 2015 at 7:19 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 12, 2015 at 8:05 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by JuliaL - July 12, 2015 at 8:27 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 12, 2015 at 8:37 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by JuliaL - July 12, 2015 at 8:54 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Angrboda - July 12, 2015 at 9:07 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 12, 2015 at 9:13 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by JuliaL - July 12, 2015 at 9:53 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Cato - July 12, 2015 at 10:35 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 12, 2015 at 10:02 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by JuliaL - July 12, 2015 at 10:55 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 12, 2015 at 10:40 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 12, 2015 at 11:12 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by JuliaL - July 12, 2015 at 11:28 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by The Valkyrie - July 12, 2015 at 11:23 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 13, 2015 at 12:19 am
Islam is the real deal - by TubbyTubby - July 13, 2015 at 1:44 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 13, 2015 at 4:20 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Spooky - July 13, 2015 at 4:25 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by TubbyTubby - July 13, 2015 at 4:33 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 13, 2015 at 4:35 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by ReptilianPeon - July 13, 2015 at 5:33 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 13, 2015 at 7:34 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by ignoramus - July 13, 2015 at 7:49 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by ReptilianPeon - July 13, 2015 at 8:04 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by dyresand - July 13, 2015 at 12:14 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 13, 2015 at 1:01 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Angrboda - July 13, 2015 at 7:51 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Mudhammam - July 13, 2015 at 3:22 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by ReptilianPeon - July 13, 2015 at 3:55 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by The Valkyrie - July 13, 2015 at 4:02 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 13, 2015 at 5:47 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Minimalist - July 13, 2015 at 5:51 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 13, 2015 at 6:40 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by JuliaL - July 13, 2015 at 10:34 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 13, 2015 at 8:56 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Homeless Nutter - July 13, 2015 at 10:49 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Aractus - July 14, 2015 at 4:55 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by ignoramus - July 13, 2015 at 9:28 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by The Valkyrie - July 13, 2015 at 9:37 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Iroscato - July 14, 2015 at 5:30 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by ignoramus - July 14, 2015 at 1:10 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by ReptilianPeon - July 14, 2015 at 2:57 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 14, 2015 at 4:22 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by ReptilianPeon - July 14, 2015 at 7:31 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by pocaracas - July 14, 2015 at 9:16 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Mister Agenda - July 14, 2015 at 9:43 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 14, 2015 at 1:18 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by TubbyTubby - July 14, 2015 at 2:02 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 14, 2015 at 2:29 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by TubbyTubby - July 14, 2015 at 2:34 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 14, 2015 at 3:46 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Aractus - July 14, 2015 at 9:14 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by TubbyTubby - July 14, 2015 at 4:50 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 14, 2015 at 5:10 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by TubbyTubby - July 14, 2015 at 5:38 pm
Islam is the real deal - by TubbyTubby - July 14, 2015 at 5:45 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 14, 2015 at 5:57 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by pocaracas - July 14, 2015 at 6:39 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by dyresand - July 14, 2015 at 6:21 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 14, 2015 at 7:08 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by pocaracas - July 14, 2015 at 7:40 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by The Grand Nudger - July 14, 2015 at 8:09 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by MysticKnight - July 14, 2015 at 10:51 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 15, 2015 at 2:36 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by aishatbh95 - July 15, 2015 at 9:51 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by pocaracas - July 15, 2015 at 10:21 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 15, 2015 at 10:55 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Tonus - July 15, 2015 at 9:53 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 15, 2015 at 10:02 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by aishatbh95 - July 15, 2015 at 10:47 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by pocaracas - July 15, 2015 at 10:51 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by aishatbh95 - July 15, 2015 at 11:40 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by pocaracas - July 15, 2015 at 11:50 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by JesusHChrist - July 15, 2015 at 12:02 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 15, 2015 at 11:45 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by aishatbh95 - July 15, 2015 at 11:54 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 15, 2015 at 12:07 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2015 at 12:18 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 15, 2015 at 12:21 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by aishatbh95 - July 15, 2015 at 12:42 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by JesusHChrist - July 15, 2015 at 1:25 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by JesusHChrist - July 15, 2015 at 1:51 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2015 at 1:02 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by aishatbh95 - July 15, 2015 at 1:02 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2015 at 1:06 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 15, 2015 at 1:09 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by pocaracas - July 15, 2015 at 1:15 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by aishatbh95 - July 15, 2015 at 1:30 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 15, 2015 at 1:33 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 15, 2015 at 1:42 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 15, 2015 at 2:03 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2015 at 1:42 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 15, 2015 at 1:45 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2015 at 1:47 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Angrboda - July 15, 2015 at 1:59 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2015 at 2:07 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by aishatbh95 - July 15, 2015 at 2:16 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2015 at 2:21 pm
Islam is the real deal - by aishatbh95 - July 15, 2015 at 2:28 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by JesusHChrist - July 15, 2015 at 2:39 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 15, 2015 at 2:34 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 15, 2015 at 2:37 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 15, 2015 at 2:39 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 15, 2015 at 2:59 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 15, 2015 at 3:02 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Spooky - July 15, 2015 at 3:04 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 15, 2015 at 3:05 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by JesusHChrist - July 15, 2015 at 4:40 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 15, 2015 at 3:09 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 15, 2015 at 3:14 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 15, 2015 at 3:20 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 15, 2015 at 3:32 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 15, 2015 at 3:33 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 15, 2015 at 3:35 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by ignoramus - July 16, 2015 at 4:10 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 15, 2015 at 3:37 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2015 at 3:39 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by robvalue - July 16, 2015 at 5:41 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by TubbyTubby - July 16, 2015 at 6:48 am
RE: Islam is the real deal - by Regina - July 16, 2015 at 1:55 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by huss88ein - July 16, 2015 at 1:52 pm
RE: Islam is the real deal - by JesusHChrist - July 16, 2015 at 2:00 pm

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