(July 12, 2015 at 9:13 pm)huss88ein Wrote: Well that is amazing your way of conclusion is admired but you forget that even if there was an abortion you can't see anything in it but blood and coagulated drops so you will never be able to tell without a scientific study under microscope . An I am telling you that from experience as in my profession I've seen hundreds of them.And did you wash off the surface blood so you could see the embryo?
I didn't think so.
At 30 days (approximately the time the neural tube closes as in your graphic) the embryo is 2.5 to 3.5 mm overall length.
A medium grain of rice is 5 to 7 mm long. Are you saying that you cannot see anything as small as half a grain of rice? I'm sorry your vision is so bad, but take heart, others are not so blind as you.
Quote:For the surah were it is mentioned I've already mentioned it multiple times in this discussion.I wasn't asking about the embryo/leech nonsense.
What I was asking was what surahs are your surgeon friends using to help them with their surgical practices.
My guess is that they are not using any.
They are probably current on technique and they study current, western, references because that is where current progress is being made.
What you will see is that their religion has no bearing on their surgical practice.
Quote:just an advice you can never say someone is unable to contribute to science just because he is a muslim or arab or christian that is racist and ethnic
Mendel was a priest and look at his contribution in biology.
I've mentioned Mendel here to tell u that science is never a monopoly to a certain relegion or race.
I can mention hundreds of Muslim scientists such as Ibnsina , Ibnhaitham , Alrazy, Ibnnafees..............
It isn't racist to point out that a certain culture is unwilling to accept scientific advances because they are stuck in the middle ages.
Ibnsina (Avicenna) ~980CE to June 1027CE
Ibn al-Haytham (Alhazen) ~965CE – ~1040CE
Muhammad ibn Zakariyā Rāzī (Rhazes) 854CE to 925CE
Ibn al-Nafis 1213CE to 1288CE
It's nice you were able to find one scientist who lived less than a thousand years ago.
Arab science died 700 years ago. It's a matter of culture, not race.
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat?