RE: Simple question for Christians.
July 17, 2015 at 11:23 am
(This post was last modified: July 17, 2015 at 11:28 am by robvalue.)
Objective means it is always true, regardless of context. So no, your morality is not objective since not even Christians can agree on it.
You could claim it is external, but why is that a good thing? You are surrendering your judgement to another party? Why would you do that? That makes you entirely amoral. How is this different to a fascist dictator telling everyone what is right and wrong?
I don't judge others as inherently immoral, I say in my opinion they are immoral. You are saying that in your opinion of what god's opinion is, they are immoral. What's the difference? And why should I care about god's opinion? You end up with a set of rules you live by, and so do I. Neither of us can prove they are "right". I don't accept that there is such thing as "right". You have defined morality for you so that it is "right", in your opinion. Still an opinion.
Again, why should I care about an arbitrary list from a third party? Why should you?
Also, I spotted the circular nature of your argument. You said morality is evidence for God. And you define morality as a list of things God says is right and wrong. So your evidence assumes your claim is already true.
What you're actually doing (in my opinion) is observing human morality and trying to explain it via a third party. Except it doesn't work, because no one fully agrees, so it's all subjective. God does not come down to straighten it out. And even if he did, why should I care? If he says hit someone with a rock, why should I do it?
You could claim it is external, but why is that a good thing? You are surrendering your judgement to another party? Why would you do that? That makes you entirely amoral. How is this different to a fascist dictator telling everyone what is right and wrong?
I don't judge others as inherently immoral, I say in my opinion they are immoral. You are saying that in your opinion of what god's opinion is, they are immoral. What's the difference? And why should I care about god's opinion? You end up with a set of rules you live by, and so do I. Neither of us can prove they are "right". I don't accept that there is such thing as "right". You have defined morality for you so that it is "right", in your opinion. Still an opinion.
Again, why should I care about an arbitrary list from a third party? Why should you?
Also, I spotted the circular nature of your argument. You said morality is evidence for God. And you define morality as a list of things God says is right and wrong. So your evidence assumes your claim is already true.
What you're actually doing (in my opinion) is observing human morality and trying to explain it via a third party. Except it doesn't work, because no one fully agrees, so it's all subjective. God does not come down to straighten it out. And even if he did, why should I care? If he says hit someone with a rock, why should I do it?
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