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If God changed his mind
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RE: If God changed his mind
July 19, 2015 at 6:46 am (This post was last modified: July 19, 2015 at 6:48 am by robvalue.)
Pyrrho: Thanks very much Smile

Follow your heart? So that's an admission morality doesn't entirely come from god then, or else your heart would tell you the same thing that god tells you.

Three people have now told me they would refuse to kill their family if god commanded it. (I'm very glad to hear that of course.) And I think they also claim morality comes only from god. So I don't understand on what grounds they can refuse. Are they finally admitting that in fact morality doesn't come from god?

The fact that they know this in advance means they are aware of some standard of actions being wrong, even if god says they are right. So how can morality just come from god? I'm not trying to be a clever arsehole, I'm serious. How can god "cross a line" if he makes the line?
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If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - July 17, 2015 at 10:42 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by dyresand - July 17, 2015 at 11:20 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Chad32 - July 17, 2015 at 11:23 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Philomath - August 10, 2015 at 8:41 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by vorlon13 - July 17, 2015 at 11:33 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by rado84 - July 17, 2015 at 11:37 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by dyresand - July 17, 2015 at 12:25 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Spooky - July 17, 2015 at 12:46 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by RobbyPants - July 24, 2015 at 8:25 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - July 17, 2015 at 11:13 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - July 18, 2015 at 2:40 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - July 18, 2015 at 8:29 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by dyresand - July 18, 2015 at 11:08 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by IATIA - July 18, 2015 at 11:13 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - July 18, 2015 at 11:18 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - July 18, 2015 at 2:00 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Muad·Dib - July 18, 2015 at 4:20 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - July 20, 2015 at 11:26 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Jenny A - July 21, 2015 at 1:35 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - July 21, 2015 at 1:18 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - July 22, 2015 at 10:23 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Ravenshire - August 9, 2015 at 3:39 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - August 9, 2015 at 6:44 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Ravenshire - August 9, 2015 at 6:55 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - August 10, 2015 at 6:29 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Ravenshire - August 10, 2015 at 9:43 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - August 11, 2015 at 5:22 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Ravenshire - August 11, 2015 at 9:49 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - August 9, 2015 at 9:36 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Drich - August 10, 2015 at 11:36 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - August 10, 2015 at 11:36 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Drich - August 10, 2015 at 1:34 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - August 10, 2015 at 5:40 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - August 10, 2015 at 7:28 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Ravenshire - August 10, 2015 at 9:45 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 21, 2015 at 2:06 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Ravenshire - August 9, 2015 at 3:34 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - August 9, 2015 at 6:40 pm
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RE: If God changed his mind - by Longhorn - July 18, 2015 at 3:59 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - July 18, 2015 at 8:25 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by dyresand - July 18, 2015 at 3:33 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Longhorn - July 18, 2015 at 3:36 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - July 20, 2015 at 11:10 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Pyrrho - July 18, 2015 at 2:32 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by h4ym4n - July 26, 2015 at 4:54 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Pyrrho - July 26, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by ignoramus - July 17, 2015 at 11:18 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by vorlon13 - July 18, 2015 at 12:03 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by ignoramus - July 18, 2015 at 12:09 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Muad·Dib - July 18, 2015 at 12:52 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by ignoramus - July 18, 2015 at 2:46 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by robvalue - July 18, 2015 at 3:53 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Pyrrho - July 18, 2015 at 1:23 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by robvalue - July 18, 2015 at 4:02 am
If God changed his mind - by Muad·Dib - July 18, 2015 at 10:45 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by The Grand Nudger - July 18, 2015 at 10:57 am
If God changed his mind - by Muad·Dib - July 18, 2015 at 11:23 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Minimalist - July 18, 2015 at 11:49 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Minimalist - July 18, 2015 at 2:04 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by IATIA - July 18, 2015 at 3:36 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by The Grand Nudger - July 18, 2015 at 4:10 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - July 20, 2015 at 11:18 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by ronedee - July 18, 2015 at 4:25 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by The Grand Nudger - July 18, 2015 at 4:35 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by robvalue - July 19, 2015 at 6:46 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by robvalue - July 21, 2015 at 3:34 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by AtheistAspie - July 21, 2015 at 4:10 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Silver - July 21, 2015 at 4:11 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 21, 2015 at 4:17 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by The Grand Nudger - July 21, 2015 at 7:47 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by robvalue - July 21, 2015 at 1:21 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by robvalue - July 24, 2015 at 8:59 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - July 25, 2015 at 4:05 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by robvalue - July 25, 2015 at 5:12 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Pyrrho - July 25, 2015 at 10:17 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 25, 2015 at 3:52 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by robvalue - July 25, 2015 at 10:21 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Pyrrho - July 25, 2015 at 10:45 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - July 25, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by KevinM1 - July 25, 2015 at 5:53 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by robvalue - July 25, 2015 at 10:10 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by ignoramus - July 26, 2015 at 5:20 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by BrokenQuill92 - July 26, 2015 at 5:36 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by robvalue - July 26, 2015 at 5:46 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Pyrrho - July 26, 2015 at 1:00 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - July 26, 2015 at 2:27 pm
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RE: If God changed his mind - by Pyrrho - August 8, 2015 at 1:51 pm
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RE: If God changed his mind - by Drich - August 10, 2015 at 12:06 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Ravenshire - August 9, 2015 at 3:44 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - August 9, 2015 at 11:26 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Drich - August 9, 2015 at 12:11 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Catholic_Lady - August 9, 2015 at 12:14 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - August 9, 2015 at 1:31 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Drich - August 9, 2015 at 2:27 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - August 9, 2015 at 2:47 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Drich - August 10, 2015 at 10:41 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - August 10, 2015 at 11:15 am
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