Prayer?

[C.W. Sims]

Welcome to AF new guy!

I read the rest of your post, couldn't have cared less, but had to respond to this. Chanting is not what you think it is, neither are you correct in your interpretation of "repetitive prayer". Go ask a priest what that phrase originally meant and get back to me. Just a question, not saying anything eitherway, but how do you know I am not one?

This is how I have used this word

Actually no. the word in the greek is: battalogeō
1) to stammer

2) to repeat the same things over and over, to use many idle words, to babble, prate. Some suppose the word derived from Battus, a king of Cyrene, who is said to have stuttered; others from Battus, an author of tedious and wordy poems.

It seems to be a mixture of Christian arrogance fueled by a Lexicon and the proper usage of the greek word in question.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexi...G945&t=KJV
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chant

Good to know and again welcome to AF

You are still confused as to the reason Jesus is said to have given the directive to avoid vain repetition. It was not because they were repeating the words, it was because they were repeating them without truly believing them and still has nothing at all to do with chanting. Chanting is something entirely different, unless you count the monks in the Catholic tradition who chant the prayers and psalms. However, even in this case, the chanting is still not vain repetition. To call it so is incredibly rude seeing as those who consider themselves Catholic, especially the monks and nuns, hold these chants to be sacred and filled with meaning. They feel that chanting them brings them into a closer communion with the god they worship.

I do apologize if I got the correct translation of the word wrong. I am not one to stand here and say I was write if I wasn't. So in the proper translation department I must concede to you unless I can be bothered to go research it and find that you are wrong, and frankly I don't care enough to do that right at this moment.

However I still hold that my original statement was true. You are maligning the word chant by grafting it onto the meaning of vain repetition. For those who use chants as a real and sacred way to tune their mind to whatever they feel to be divine they are certainly not guilty of vain repetition as you seem to adamant to say they are.

Oh, and thank you for the welcome.