Why does God hate babies who have not sinned?

[Darkstar]

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We have no choice and no free will to deviate from our God given sin nature and God would know this as it is was all planned. Jesus was to die even before man was created. That is why Adam’s sin is called a necessary sin.

wow, That was quick! It looks like your eyes are beginning to open already!

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So you admit that god rigged it for us to lose?

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If we have no choice in following our sin natures, and cannot deviate from our part in God’s plan, then what is God’s reason for punishing us for being exactly what he created and programmed us to do?

Some quick biblically based definations first:

Sin, Anything not in the Expressed Will of God.

Expressed Will of God, God's verbal, or written command; The Law of God.

Evil, A malicious intent to sin. In other words one can consider 'evil' to be the proof, that we can indeed be outside of the Expressed will of God. For it is from the well spring of man heart and desire to be in his own will, that takes him to these depths away from God.

Also know, Not all sin is evil, but all evil is indeed sin.

In order for their to be a choice there must be a contrast or options to choose from. God labled this contrast Sin and Righteousness. Sin is anything outside the expressed will of God. and Righteousness is the absence of sin.

Still with me?
Honestly read what is written and do not assume you know what it is I am going to say.

We have been given a choice to make. That is right all of our 'free will' boils down to one choice. In giving us the ablity to Choose a contrast must be present. why? Because if we were in the Expressed will of God then our choice would not be ours to make as everything we do would have been in God's expressed will. There by rendering our 'choice' an extention of God's own will. (Meaning our choice would have been what God chose for us and subsequently not our choice at all.) This contrast or ablity to be outside the expressed will of God is again known as sin. But the requirement to be in the presents of God is to be sinless...

Here in lies the paradox. If we Choose our eternal state from God's own expressed will, then our choice would not be our own. If we Choose our eternal state from a position of contrast, apart from God's expressed will our very ablity to choose eliminates the viablity of the choice we were to make. For it is only from the position of sin that a true choice can be made.

Enter Christ and His blood sacerfice. The attonement offered here wipes away or removes the stain of sin, so all that is left is the believers choice to spend eternity with God.

So in light of this information lets take another look at your question:

what is God’s reason for punishing us for being exactly what he created and programmed us to do?

God 'programed us to make a choice.' You will be punished because you chose to be punished when you chose not to be redeemed.

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In the end, all god ever cares about is if we are willing to be his slaves. Why do we need to be constantly redeemed if Jesus wiped away the sin? That's right, he didn't. God designed us to sin for the very purpose that we might repent and be subserviant. With the church constantly reminding you what a terrible person you are, you can't help but feel even more pathetic compared to god; you wouldn't dare question his authority.

That is why good deeds, and all the moral crap you want to do has absolutly no bearing on your eternal status. "So no, Man can boast" As Christ Himself puts it.

Which is why things like 9/11 happen. Obeying god takes precedence over genuine morals, by this logic.

That is why Adam’s sin is called a necessary sin. He could not help but sin and neither can any of us.

yup!

But the human race endures terrible curses because of it. Some mercy...

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This is all rather abstract so if you like I will imagine a viable scenario for us to work with. We all know that many are starving to death in various countries.

What kind of monster knows this and does nothing but blame a God he supposedly does not believe in for it?

Imagine one of these starving children walking past a farmer’s apple tree. The child knows that if he steals the apples that the farmer’s family will starve to death. He or she has a choice of either stealing apples to prevent their death or not. The survival instinct being our first instinct, I think apples will be eaten.

That child’s God given nature will choose life, as all natures do by default, and eat an apple. Does that child deserve hell when it’s God given nature drove it to sin?

If He does not choose to be with God in eternity Yes!

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Why? Because God would be a Monster if He dragged that soul into Heaven and forced Him to serve for all eternity if that person did not want to be there.

I still don't know why you think hell isn't pure tortue by definition.

We cannot do anything but follow our basic God given natures. Do we deserve hell for doing so?

If we do not seek attonement yes we deserve Hell!

I'm sorry that you made me imperfect god, seeing as how it's my fault and I should be exclusively blamed for it.

Is God’s punishment unjust?

Probably not for the ones enduring it, but for the rest of creation, Yes!

Wow, god must be pretty merciless, considering that under the rules of catholicism the vast majority of people are going to hell.