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When you prayed did it ever work?
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work?
(November 1, 2012 at 10:31 am)Faith No More Wrote: You're missing the point, which is that you claim that god intends human beings to use a method of attaining knowledge that is well-known to create flawed results, but a very humble and rational person would be justified in dismissing any knowledge obtained in such a manner due to its propensity for producing those flawed results. How would your god justify sending a person to hell that was merely guilty of using the mental faculties given to them?

God is justified in anything He does simply because He does not answer to anyone else.God does not need to follow some standard in order to be found Righteous. Righteousness is the standard derived from the Expressed Will of God. As such He has demanded one to Humble himself before the living God. As it is, you serve the soceity and it's line of logic and reason. Which is in direct conflict with what God has commanded all of us to do. So the question becomes: Do you serve yourself and your soceity by following the rule and reason of soceity? or do you openly choose to serve the Living God? If you choose to serve yourself or your soceity over the Living God, then your master in effect becomes another god. If you serve and choose to worship this other god, you will be condemned. No matter what reason you tell yourself.

(November 1, 2012 at 10:39 am)DoubtVsFaith Wrote:
(November 1, 2012 at 9:06 am)Drich Wrote: It is funny to me that you have such a deep concern of the accuracy of how your statement was presented, and little to no concern if the statement you presented was even accurate.

I'm not concerned about the accuracy of the statement because I'm too confident that it's correct to worry about it being untrue. If you can provide evidence that I'm wrong about 'counting the hits and ignoring the misses' being a logical fallacy then I'll change my belief.
That's just it, we are not talking about a logical fallacy, the fact that you would demand that I provide you with such a fallacy is a red herring in of itself. Because it dirverts attention away from the fact that I have indeed counted the 'misses' and even spoke of them in my orginal post. I even went so far as to point this out to you by correcting your orginal statement. But none of this matters to you because you have not concerned yourself with facts, when making your arguement. You see an oppertunity to push doubt and have done so even at the expense of the truth I am repersenting.

Your arguement fails because it ignores the circumstances it is supposed to address. If you want a logical fallacy to address then address the Red Herring I pointed out.
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When you prayed did it ever work? - by rainbowdash274 - October 31, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - October 31, 2012 at 12:31 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 12:37 am
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cinjin - October 31, 2012 at 11:52 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 2:25 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Norfolk And Chance - November 2, 2012 at 10:02 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - October 31, 2012 at 12:44 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 9:51 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - October 31, 2012 at 11:08 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 11:38 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - October 31, 2012 at 11:44 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Fryslân - October 31, 2012 at 11:54 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cinjin - October 31, 2012 at 12:10 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 2:56 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Strongbad - November 1, 2012 at 4:04 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Doubting_Thomas - October 31, 2012 at 12:58 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Angrboda - October 31, 2012 at 12:57 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Minimalist - October 31, 2012 at 1:35 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Godschild - October 31, 2012 at 2:40 am
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by JohnDG - October 31, 2012 at 3:41 am
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - October 31, 2012 at 5:17 am
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When you prayed did it ever work? - by Zen Badger - October 31, 2012 at 4:55 am
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2012 at 8:15 am
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Faith No More - October 31, 2012 at 3:20 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 3:48 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Faith No More - October 31, 2012 at 3:51 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 4:09 pm
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 1, 2012 at 5:42 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 1, 2012 at 9:06 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 1, 2012 at 10:39 am
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Faith No More - October 31, 2012 at 4:16 pm
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Faith No More - November 1, 2012 at 10:31 am
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Faith No More - November 1, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 1, 2012 at 8:27 pm
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cinjin - November 2, 2012 at 11:57 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by festive1 - November 2, 2012 at 12:56 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Lion IRC - November 2, 2012 at 7:22 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Annik - November 2, 2012 at 9:19 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by LastPoet - November 2, 2012 at 7:46 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Faith No More - November 2, 2012 at 8:12 am
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Faith No More - November 14, 2012 at 9:44 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 16, 2012 at 1:41 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by mr.atheist - November 16, 2012 at 10:28 pm
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