(January 19, 2013 at 4:17 pm)Napoléon Wrote: You didn't take my post into context, forgetting to address the second sentence. I'm guessing you don't read any of his posts afterall, as he's posted the same thing before. Which is what I pointed out, guess it just went over your head.The context was established (in my view) in the sentence before, where you stated that his post completely contradicted mine. To then go on and accuse me of not reading his posts came across pretty clear to me.
If you didn't mean that, then you weren't exactly very clear about it, and if A Theist has described guns in the same way as hand tools before, I can honestly say I've never seen it. He posts a lot here; I don't claim to read all posts in all threads.
Quote:I think you're being pretty facetious. My understanding of Ryantology's OP was that he's pointing out the trivialisation that occurs when people compare firearms with other tools.Show me an actual example of someone comparing a firearm with other tools and I'll gladly evaluate it. However, it is not true that most pro-gun people do this, and if the occasional nut does it, it really doesn't change my opinion of guns anyway.
I think a comparison between the gun A Theist posted, and normal power tools, is a perfect example of this.
The point isn't really about what you define as a tool. The point is describing a gun as though it's on the same level as a drill is incredibly misleading.
Again, I don't think A Theist's example is what Ryantology was talking about. There are some quite clear distinctions between actual guns, and nail guns (even if they are shaped like assault rifles). Guns are designed to kill; nail guns are designed for construction. Guns are designed to take bullets; nail guns are designed to take nails. Bullets are shaped to fly through the air pretty smoothly, which is why they are accurate and make good ammunition. Nails on the other hand, are not. It wouldn't surprise me if the nail gun A Theist pointed to was highly inaccurate at a distance. It looks more like a gimmick than anything else.