(July 31, 2015 at 10:14 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:Because there is no evidence with which to distinguish the two.(July 31, 2015 at 9:55 pm)JuliaL Wrote: The argument is that the Abrahamic god is indistinguishable from a fairy tale produced by a primitive, tribal people.Why is that?
Have you some?
Quote:Please offer concrete evidence that the Quran is outside the production capability of mortals.Quote:It would be evidence of His existence and omnipotence were He to offer something a little more currentThat would be true, but if knowledge of his existence exists anyways and proof of his religion exists, for sincere seekers of the truth, it would be redundant. And what would convince a generation to follow of the more current revelation being true? It would be the content right? It would be due to it being something out of capability of mortals. But this is true regarding Quran anyways.
At least DVDs would have been outside of the capability of 7th century humans.
Quote:So how would you show that it was NOT highly advanced aliens?Quote:The fact that no such evidence is ever produced suggests that the null hypothesis of non-existence is accurate.Why is that? If you don't believe God is the Lord of the worlds, you will more likely believe it was revealed by aliens trying to control us. All miracles wouldn't be proof for an Atheist of God doing it anymore then highly advanced aliens. It takes the belief of God being the Lord of the worlds and his lordship, to believe in miracles supporting messengers.
Once you've bitten on the LordGodoftheUniverse sandwich, you've given up rational thought. At that point, why argue?
Quote:Quote:Are there any current exalted ones? Who are they?Currently on earth, there is Imam Mahdi (the 12th Imam), Khidr and Elyas. Not dead yet as well are Idris and Isa (Jesus) but they currently reside in a higher realm.
And these people differ from the rest of us in what way? Do they levitate? Glow in the dark?
No, forget that last one. That's not magic.
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat?