(February 12, 2016 at 2:14 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:(February 12, 2016 at 2:03 pm)Drich Wrote: Not my numbers were they? I provided source material for everything I mentioned, except what I freely admitted was speculation.
As far as what do Christians base their anti abortion stance on... IDK may you shall not murder.. Maybe you can start their. Oh, but that's right it's not murder because like I pointed out with the Nazis, and Indians at the time, the humanity required for 'murder' has been taken from these babies and it does not count... Oh, but wait doesn't that go back to what I said already about pop morality? In that a 'moral consensus' can justify any act, even one that has consumed over a billion babies, and no one will give it a second thought. So then my question "how would 'we' know that we ourselves have already taken an evil turn like the Nazis did, yet still consider ourselves 'good people'? (just like they did)" Was really retorchical because Abortion is indeed an example of a stomach turning evil that has killed far more BABIES than everyone killed in WWII.
http://www.numberofabortions.com/
So really the Nazi's have nothing on us.
Legal abortions prevent the deaths of grown women, fully formed people are saved by this law, but being a Christian Drich only cares about people in the wrapper for some reason.
Quote:Unsafe abortion is a major cause of injury and death among women worldwide. Although data are imprecise, it is estimated that approximately 20 million unsafe abortions are performed annually, with 97% taking place in developing countries.[36] Unsafe abortion is believed to result in approximately 69,000 deaths and millions of injuries annually.[36] The legal status of abortion is believed to play a major role in the frequency of unsafe abortion.[37][38] For example, the 1996 legalization of abortion in South Africa had an immediate positive impact on the frequency of abortion-related complications,[39] with abortion-related deaths dropping by more than 90%.[40] Groups such as the World Health Organization have advocated a public-health approach to addressing unsafe abortion, emphasizing the legalization of abortion, the training of medical personnel, and ensuring access to reproductive-health services.[38]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsafe_abortion
US Abortion Clock.org
As of 2:09PM EST 2-12-16
In United States today
1,762.3
US since 1973: Roe vs Wade
58,711,737.6
By Planned Parenthood since 1970
6,998,643.9
By Planned Parenthood this year
37,290.9
United States this Year
125,482.6
US this Year after
16 weeks gestation
6,023.2
US this Year due to rape
or incest
1,217.2
Black babies since '73 in US
17,613,521.3
Worldwide since 1980
1,404,603,823
Worldwide this Year
4,658,300
WW since you loaded this page
5,073
Worldwide Today
So out of that 1.4 billion what are you saying 80 to 99% are for health reasons?