RE: Why did god allow people to be born after the fall ?
November 8, 2017 at 9:38 am
(This post was last modified: November 8, 2017 at 9:41 am by Harry Nevis.)
(November 7, 2017 at 3:52 pm)alpha male Wrote:(November 7, 2017 at 3:25 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: No, you didn't.
"Romans 8 & 9, Galatians 4, and Ephesians 1 all refer to believers being adopted as children of God. Obviously if they were born children by default, they wouldn't need to be adopted."
Seems pretty clear to me. What don't you understand?
First off, you didn't cite these before.
Second, I think you reading these wrong.
(November 7, 2017 at 4:48 pm)alpha male Wrote:(November 7, 2017 at 4:36 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Because there is no evidence that any of the countless thousands of claimed gods have ever existed.
Why ask for that which cannot be provided?
Ask the atheists, as whenever one of them starts a thread on some biblical topic, it's only a matter of time until another one comes in and asks for evidence of god's existence.
Gee, I wonder why....
(November 7, 2017 at 5:05 pm)SteveII Wrote:Isaiah 45:7.(November 7, 2017 at 3:25 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: If he knows I will repent on my deathbed, and I don't, either he didn't know or he was wrong.Your statement is just a contradiction. He does not know because he has seen you do it, he knows because he knows what you would freely choose give circumstances x y and z. Important in this knowledge is he knows true counterfactuals--what you would have done if x, y or z were different.
Since god created good,and he (and he admits it) created evil, he is responsible for the existence of sin.
Sin is the absence of good only to you guys. It doesn't exist outside if the bible.
God could not admit creating evil because by definition it is the deprivation of good. How can someone create a negative? You are barking up the wrong tree. Yes, he is responsible for the possibility of sin, but you are just complaining about the definition of free will.
Exactly. So we are the ones that get to define it.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing." - Samuel Porter Putnam