RE: Why did god allow people to be born after the fall ?
November 16, 2017 at 6:08 pm
(This post was last modified: November 16, 2017 at 6:17 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 16, 2017 at 5:44 pm)SteveII Wrote:Novel christology, you might want to check your cult to see if you're presenting an accurate representation of your beliefs.... but it doesn't actually matter whether you're okay with killing the better man or the better porcupine. If paying your way was never an option, if whatever you've done is -that- bad..then you should accept the consequences, rather than hoping that a fistful of blood money might bail you out. That's what a moral, responsible person does.(November 16, 2017 at 5:13 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Oh...you misunderstand, it's not necessarily immoral for -him- to make the attempt, even doomed to failure as it always would have been..it's immoral for -you- to accept. Your imaginary friends moral agency isn't under scrutiny here..yours is. Glad to clear that up.
That the better man might lay his life down for your mortgage evading ass isn't exactly all that surprising. That you would would accept the death of the better man and think that this was good, otoh...is. That's the kind of idea that can only come from a person you can never turn your back on. The kind of person that would feed you to the wolves to save his own skin. The kind of person decidedly -unlike- the sacrifice in question.
You are making a category error (among other errors). Jesus was not a man so a comparison is silly. God himself came down to bridge the gap between his holiness and our sin. He is the only one that could have done that. We cannot even pay with our lives to make that happen (a debt is an incomplete metaphor). Accepting his offer in no way infers a lack of character, because paying your own way was never an option.
We've already established that you're neither, though, haven't we...sufficiently expressed in your very acceptence? You're a cynical opportunist, out to get whatever you can by any means available. Including the brutal torture and death of some random jew. Do you really believe that the author of goodness would feel anything but contempt for you, in this?
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