RE: Jesus as Lord - why is this appealing to so many?
February 14, 2018 at 12:42 pm
(This post was last modified: February 14, 2018 at 12:47 pm by SteveII.)
(February 14, 2018 at 12:13 pm)Grandizer Wrote:(February 14, 2018 at 12:00 pm)SteveII Wrote: What I am objecting to is not the concept of infinity. I'm fine with that. What I am objecting to is NO ONE believes it applies to the real world, real objects, real series of events--because successive addition will never get you to it. A simple article would prove me wrong.
Even if you think it should (like Sean Carroll), there is no theory how to defeat the logic. You must accept it without explanation (brute fact). But that is not what Grand/Poly are suggesting. They think they are smarter than Sean Carroll and think it a settled question with the answer -- of course it works--no problem.
You're NOT paying attention!
polymath is arguing similar to Sean Carroll, in that he's not sure if space/time is infinite or not, but the bet is that it is.
No, not the "bet". That implies a theory. There is no theory that gets past the illogical concept of an actual infinity. What you are describing is a hope (the word Sean Carroll used). And that hope is driven by one thing only: a desire to have no beginning that then requires an explanation other than naturalism.
Quote:And I make no claim that what I hold to is scientific in its entirety. My personal view is logical but not necessarily completely supported by scientific evidence, though it also doesn't contradict it either. So it's absurd that you want us to post a scientific theory that says this is what is the case, when no one said anything about a scientific theory.
You have not shown that your personal view is logical. You don't have to post a scientific theory. You chose to post a video that brought that up. Post anything that shows that people believe an actual infinite number of real things is possible--from any reputable source.
