Oregon Journalist Andy Ngo Attacked By Antifa Members

[Amarok]

How does one violently oppress violent oppressors? I'm talking genuine fascists here, in power, in government

At that point, it becomes armed revolution, not the suppression of freedoms.  But you said Antifa is needed in some places.  Beating up journalists is needed? Fomenting riots because of a speech you disagree with is needed?

Antifa aren't freedom fighters.  They are thugs, goons and attention whores, no better than neo-Nazis.  In fact, they're worse than neo-Nazis, because as contemptible as the latter group are, at least they aren't hypocrites.  Antifa types want to suppress freedom of speech in the name of freedom of speech.

Boru

Lol freedom of speech for a facist is an oxymoron

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My family has a history of gunning down fascists, a position I endorse.

For context my grandad manned a maxime machine gun on a field the Nazis were using to land paratroops in Norway. Apparently he had no idea how many he got.

Again, there's a tremendous difference between an actual war and street thuggery.

Boru

Not really

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/02/opinions/...index.html

WARNING: The video below, within the hide tags, shows some violent acts.

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I have to wonder how anyone thinks that this is okay. People who claim to be all about tolerance, liberty and love just straight up attacking a man who is unarmed and showing no signs of aggression simply because they disagree with his political views. Admittedly, I don't know much about Ngo; he describes himself as a "right-of-center journalist" who, according to CNN, "has made a cottage industry of exposing manufactured instances of hate crimes."

This man is openly gay and an ethnic minority; he's Vietnamese. Yet, somehow, Antifa has painted him has some allt-right white supremacist. Imagine that: A Vietnamese White Supremacist."

The flippant way in which these morons label people as "nazis" is simply insane and honestly concerning.

Not to mention, these antifa clowns don't even understand real violence; it's almost like they're playing a game. Computer nerds who get together and wear masks and bully people who they know are easy targets. You know what's actually scary? Right-wing nuts with real guns who are willing to kill people... people who run militias and have compounds with crates of guns and ammunition. What exactly are they antifa assholes trying to stir up? Fucking insane.

edit: Also, interestingly enough, Andy Ngo states that in some of Antifas press releases it has been stated that even if, within the organization, you disagree with the tactics of Antifa members, you are not to state it publicly. It's almost like Antifa is a fascist movement that will use violence against its enemies. Weird, huh? What a bunch of fucking clowns?

I may have missed it - when did anyone in the Antifa movement claim to be about 'tolerance, liberty and love'?

And it's not 'almost' like Antifa is a fascist movement.  Eighty-odd years ago, we'd have called them 'Blackshirts'.

Boru

1. Depends on the group 

2. No we wouldn't

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/02/opinions/...index.html

WARNING: The video below, within the hide tags, shows some violent acts.

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I have to wonder how anyone thinks that this is okay. People who claim to be all about tolerance, liberty and love just straight up attacking a man who is unarmed and showing no signs of aggression simply because they disagree with his political views. Admittedly, I don't know much about Ngo; he describes himself as a "right-of-center journalist" who, according to CNN, "has made a cottage industry of exposing manufactured instances of hate crimes."

This man is openly gay and an ethnic minority; he's Vietnamese. Yet, somehow, Antifa has painted him has some allt-right white supremacist. Imagine that: A Vietnamese White Supremacist."

The flippant way in which these morons label people as "nazis" is simply insane and honestly concerning.

Not to mention, these antifa clowns don't even understand real violence; it's almost like they're playing a game. Computer nerds who get together and wear masks and bully people who they know are easy targets. You know what's actually scary? Right-wing nuts with real guns who are willing to kill people... people who run militias and have compounds with crates of guns and ammunition. What exactly are they antifa assholes trying to stir up? Fucking insane.

edit: Also, interestingly enough, Andy Ngo states that in some of Antifas press releases it has been stated that even if, within the organization, you disagree with the tactics of Antifa members, you are not to state it publicly. It's almost like Antifa is a fascist movement that will use violence against its enemies. Weird, huh? What a bunch of fucking clowns?

1.Oh you mean the guy who work for a website who has openly promoted race realism and white genetic supremacy .

2. You realize Antifa have no issue with buying guns and there number is made up of way more then just computer nerds 

3. He's talking out his ass there is no such press releases and even if their were Antifa ISN"T a centralized group so there would be no way to enforced it

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At that point, it becomes armed revolution, not the suppression of freedoms.  But you said Antifa is needed in some places.  Beating up journalists is needed? Fomenting riots because of a speech you disagree with is needed?

Beating up people who works for a site the promotes race realism and went to the rally to be propaganda mouth piece for the proud boys .So drop "speech you disagree with " it has nothing to do with disagreement . You don't simply  disagree with the race racialists  .

Antifa aren't freedom fighters.  They are thugs, goons and attention whores, no better than neo-Nazis.  In fact, they're worse than neo-Nazis, because as contemptible as the latter group are, at least they aren't hypocrites.  Antifa types want to suppress freedom of speech in the name of freedom of speech.

Neo Nazi's are huge hypocrites they openly use something they would happily take away from everyone else if in charge And when did Antifa say Neo Nazi's should have free speech ?