RE: Oregon Journalist Andy Ngo Attacked By Antifa Members
July 11, 2019 at 9:51 pm
(This post was last modified: July 11, 2019 at 9:59 pm by Amarok.)
(July 11, 2019 at 9:48 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: To be totally honest, the Iron Cross symbol is ambiguous, at least in and of itself. I can remember, I think it was last year, seeing a rat rod with an Iron Cross on it. Apparently, according to a forum post I found on the subject (feel free to take this rationale with a grain of salt):Nor does he have any links to the German military and Once again he was hanging out with Nazi's
Quote:My degrees are in history, and i specifically study WWII...
the swastikas and iron crosses are in hot rods/biking because of the first Biker Clubs were composed of ex WWII aviator pilots/bombers.. they bought surplus military bikes (triumph, norton, harley, etc) and needed to have exitement since the war was over.
they put swastikas and iron crosses on their bikes just like a pilot puts them on their plane. it's a show of respect, and to be an outlaw at same time.
the romans would parade their defeated enemies insignias/weapons/captors through the streets of rome to show how great of an enemy they defeated.
by showing swastikas and iron crosses, it's like showing the same thing, a great enemy that you defeated and respect....
I should point out, however, that as far as I can tell, Milo isn't a rat rodder, most rat rodders don't pal around with famous white supremacists, and they also don't give themselves monikers like 1290longknives
(July 11, 2019 at 9:48 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: To be totally honest, the Iron Cross symbol is ambiguous, at least in and of itself. I can remember, I think it was last year, seeing a rat rod with an Iron Cross on it. Apparently, according to a forum post I found on the subject (feel free to take this rationale with a grain of salt):Nor do I imagine Milo fought ant Nazi's (he goes bars with them )
Quote:My degrees are in history, and i specifically study WWII...
the swastikas and iron crosses are in hot rods/biking because of the first Biker Clubs were composed of ex WWII aviator pilots/bombers.. they bought surplus military bikes (triumph, norton, harley, etc) and needed to have exitement since the war was over.
they put swastikas and iron crosses on their bikes just like a pilot puts them on their plane. it's a show of respect [Ed: In a "Worthy Opponent" and not a 14/88 sort of way, it seems], and to be an outlaw at same time.
the romans would parade their defeated enemies insignias/weapons/captors through the streets of rome to show how great of an enemy they defeated.
by showing swastikas and iron crosses, it's like showing the same thing, a great enemy that you defeated and respect....
I should point out, however, that as far as I can tell, Milo isn't a rat rodder, most rat rodders don't pal around with famous white supremacists, and they also don't give themselves monikers like 1290longknives
(July 11, 2019 at 9:48 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: To be totally honest, the Iron Cross symbol is ambiguous, at least in and of itself. I can remember, I think it was last year, seeing a rat rod with an Iron Cross on it. Apparently, according to a forum post I found on the subject (feel free to take this rationale with a grain of salt; coming up with a proper history the origins of folk traditions like rat rodding on such short notice isn't easy):True on it's own it's not but it sure doesn't help,
Quote:My degrees are in history, and i specifically study WWII...
the swastikas and iron crosses are in hot rods/biking because of the first Biker Clubs were composed of ex WWII aviator pilots/bombers.. they bought surplus military bikes (triumph, norton, harley, etc) and needed to have exitement since the war was over.
they put swastikas and iron crosses on their bikes just like a pilot puts them on their plane. it's a show of respect [Ed: In a "Worthy Opponent" and not a 14/88 sort of way, it seems], and to be an outlaw at same time.
the romans would parade their defeated enemies insignias/weapons/captors through the streets of rome to show how great of an enemy they defeated.
by showing swastikas and iron crosses, it's like showing the same thing, a great enemy that you defeated and respect....
I should point out, however, that as far as I can tell, Milo isn't a rat rodder, most rat rodders don't pal around with famous white supremacists, and they also don't give themselves monikers like 1290longknives.
Tl;DR: A symbol like the Iron Cross is not quite a smoking gun (other groups that aren't hate groups still use it, even if they are shrinking), but in conjunction with all the other shit, it's clear that he does, in fact, count as a Nazi. Many alt-righters might count as mere useful idiots (Sargon of Akkad comes to mind) and not full Nazis, but Milo ain't one of them.
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