(July 16, 2019 at 8:54 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Are you asking these questions wanting to know the answers, or because you’re certain you already have them?
Firstly the notion that “they” attack people is right wing baiting. Secondly, they don’t attack people for having disagreements... or even for -being- fascists. They believe that electoral action is an insufficient response to fascism, and prefer direct action... towards those they perceive to be promoting or advancing facism.
We can disagree with them and their methods all we like. I for example, don’t think that they’ll ever possess the stomach for the sort of violence a direct response to facism necessitates. Even so, it helps to understand what they actually are and do if we’re going to have a conversation about antifa that amounts to more than repeating the myth of the right wings boogeymsn.
Do you agree?
Boy, you sure know how to put a spin on something. You should work for FOX.
(July 16, 2019 at 9:04 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: The violence was not justified, but it wasn't purely a political disagreement. Ngo was well known and despised by Portland antifa members, not least for doxxing one of their members. There was a strong personal element to the attack, he was hated.
I don't condone brawling or other violence by antifa, but they have no equivalent to church, mosque, or synagogue shootings or the murder of Heyer. Their tactics are unacceptable and in my opinion do more to feed the right wing fear narative than to improve things (I think they should use strictly nonviolent protest), but in no way is US antifa an example of 'they do it too' without a body count.
When you attack someone without provocation, nothing else you have to say matters. It doesn't matter how much you hate someone or what they did to you. In the Western World, we call that assault. Not to mention, Ngo claims that he didn't doxx anyone; he named someone by first and last name and released a picture of them. Those are his word. To me, that's far different from releasing someone's personal phone number or home address, which antifa did to some 1500 ICE agents.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
