RE: How far reaching are God's powers?
November 11, 2020 at 8:42 pm
(This post was last modified: November 11, 2020 at 8:44 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 11, 2020 at 8:36 pm)MilesAbbott81 Wrote:So you've said, but you've yet to explain how, which is what I keep asking over and over only to have you babble more about a god. If moral responsibility requires a moral agent with a moral choice, how could moral responsibility be maintained in the absence of that moral choice?(November 11, 2020 at 8:24 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: -which is pretty much where I'm hoping to get with our christian friend, regardless of his sub-cult. If we're not moral agents, then how do we envision our moral responsibilities?
Well, I'll answer you once again for Happy Skeptic's sake.
Not having a choice doesn't absolve guilt. God takes that into account, but we still commit the evil acts even though we know better, and how does one learn to choose good without suffering the consequences of not choosing to do good?
It's a process of learning, and that's why we have to suffer for our choices. I really don't see this as complicated. It's not easy to accept, but it's not complicated.
Are you using some other requirements for moral responsibility ..and, if so, what are those?
Quote:Good choices are mostly discernable by all. In fact, I'd say that when one truly can't discern good choices from evil ones, God doesn't hold us to account for those, or at least He shows much mercy. We can clearly discern that stealing is wrong, murder is wrong, etc., because God gave us consciences.Is that an accurate description of your own experience?
What we can't do is choose to obey our conscience...that occurs only by God's grace.
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