RE: How far reaching are God's powers?
November 14, 2020 at 8:32 pm
(This post was last modified: November 14, 2020 at 8:33 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 14, 2020 at 11:37 am)MilesAbbott81 Wrote: My ignorance of what, exactly?Anything, absolutely anything. Can you be held morally responsible for things that you are ignorant of?
Can you be held morally responsible for things you are incapable of.
Can you be held morally responsible for what you have no choice in doing?
If so......how? Lay out a description of moral desert if you believe that it can be maintained in any of these circumstances.
Quote:If you believe I'm ignorant concerning my own faith, then please point out what it is that I don't know, and we can discuss it. You simply making vague declarations about what I do and don't know isn't helping the conversation move along.It doesn't matter whether you are or aren;t ignorant of your own faith. If you were, could you be held morally responsible for it?
If so, how?
Quote:If you're saying that you're incapable of understanding my argument about evil people being held responsible for their actions despite their nature, and that your failing to understand is the result of my own ignorance, I suppose I can at least acknowledge the possibility that I'm unable to clearly articulate it to you, perhaps even due to some lack of understanding on my part, but I don't believe this to be the case. I've explained myself over and over, many times and in many ways, and you always repeat that you don't understand.If I'm incapable of something, can I be held morally responsible for that?
If so, how?
Quote:My response to your lack of understanding is that God has taken away your ability to understand, because of your sins. Same goes for anyone else who can't hear me. Who are you to say that you can see, if you're blind? Can you acknowledge the possibility that God has blinded you, and that there is no way you could understand me if He has done so?If a god has donr something to a person, are they morally responsible for the effects of what that god has done?
If so, how?
Quote:Where is your humility?If there is no possibility of my having humility, can I be held morally responsible for it's lack?
If so...how?
Quote:The proud insist that they couldn't possibly be wrong, and the humble admit they could be.If pride were the inevitable product of chemical interactions specific to human biology, could we hold prideful people morally responsible, for being prideful?
If so.............how?
Quote:That is why you can't see. It's a matter of pride. Of course, you might come back with some feigned humility, but the Lord knows your heart.Can we hold the blind morally responsible for their blindness?
If so, how?
Quote:And perhaps I'm even wrong about you having a pride problem, though it seems quite obvious to me. Could be. I'm not always right; don't need to be, because my faith isn't in myself but in God. I may very well need correction here, and if so, then I pray that it be done, even before all of you, for the benefit of all. I'm not interested in proving anyone wrong, I'm only interested in the truth.If you couldn't get right...if you were incompetent.....could you be held morally responsible?
If so. How.
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