(September 21, 2021 at 2:23 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: With respect to food, I think you'd find the situation more complicated than the notion that we don't have to eat meat. We do. We'd be raising livestock even if we didn't eat it.
As far as the claim - it was demonstrably false and corrected by it's senior author. Initially, the fao included emissions from fertilizer production, mechanical land conversion, feed production, and direct emissions from animals when they came up with the number. In contrast, when they considered transport.....they ignored the manufacturing process of the vehicles, ignored service parts and requirements, ignored assembly, ignored road maintenance, ignored bridges...ignored...airports........ It was a massive fuckup, and it was corrected. Here in the us, just for specificity, the actual emissions due to livestock, is something like 4% or less - and that's with poor (environmental) practices. The authors immediately owned up to all of this - but it was too late.
(the us, btw, leads the world in sustainable livestock - there was a boom from the 60's to today similar to the field crop boom from the 40's to the 60's - if these practices were industry standard, raising livestock would be a carbon sink and fewer people would go hungry. We're uniquely situated to prevent the collapse of wild fish stocks.)
So, state your sources. I keep finding credible sources that support the claim, although the degree of severity varies by source. I'm not convinced this is a conspiracy theory.
https://apnews.com/article/north-america...c8b98531d5
http://www.fao.org/gleam/results/en/
https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources...-emissions
I did find one source claiming emissions from cows made up less than 1% of methane, but it was from the Iowa Farm Bureau, so I don't consider that an unbiased source. So at this point I would say the issue is still unsettled.
Regarding eating meat. Are you saying humans MUST eat meat? How do you explain all of those vegetarians out there? Not just in the US, lots of cultures outside the US are largely vegetarian. Again, before you accuse me of something I didn't say, I AM NOT a vegetarian and I have never advocated banning meat. I'm simply asking you questions. It is something I would consider if I was convinced it was an appropriate action for environmental improvement. I will also admit that I'm conflicted about killing animals for my own sustenance, but my laziness is all I can really point to that prevents me from addressing it.
Why is it so?
~Julius Sumner Miller
~Julius Sumner Miller