RE: Sodom found?
September 25, 2021 at 12:08 pm
(This post was last modified: September 25, 2021 at 12:13 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(September 25, 2021 at 11:16 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(September 25, 2021 at 10:52 am)Angrboda Wrote: Nonsense. It's the usual bait and switch.
"We're not saying magic Jesus existed, we just want to know if it's based on something historical."
"Okay, it's quite possible that it is based upon something historical."
"Praise Jesus, magic Jesus did exist! Hallelujah!"
Which would constitute a bad interpretation of available evidence. No argument. There’s no question that the motives of biblical archaeologists are suspect, but that’s not a good reason to dismiss archaeology related to the biblical era.
Boru
Therein lies the trouble. There is no "biblical era" beyond literary conceit. The ot is not accurate with respect to history - it's an establishment myth contextualizing then-current events with respect to an imagined past.
(September 25, 2021 at 11:54 am)Ferrocyanide Wrote:(September 24, 2021 at 11:56 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Story of Sodom and Gomorrah is pretty much stolen from the Greek mythology of Baucis and Philemon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baucis_and_Philemon
That’s interesting. So Zeus is a protector of strangers and other people. He takes his son, Hermes, and his son is also a herald, with him.
This explains why there is Zeus and Hermes (2 dudes). In the Tanakh version, there is no explanation why there are 2 angels.
The good guys (humans) are only 2 while in the Tanakh version, the good guys are 4 (Lot, nameless wife, nameless 2 daughters).
Although, the wife turns back and looks so maybe she is considered bad. Also, the 2 daughters make their father drink wine and get pregnant by him, so maybe the 2 daughters are bad girls.
The population gets killed by a flood.
In the Bible, there is baptism and parts about washing yourself. So water is seen as a cleanser.
The jewish god chooses to destroy the people with fire and sulfur, which seems to be another type of cleanser.
Also, Baucis and Philemon get an ornate temple as a reward.
What does Lot get?
Does the Baucis and Philemon story continue?
I'd be surprised if the similarities continued. Does the story then go on to explain the existence and lowly origin of a hated competitor repopulating the sites at the time of the stories construction? That's pretty specific to regional power.
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