THE Gun Thread

[Brian37]

Where did I say we could ever get to zero guns? I have said, and it remains true, that one party, one industry and one lobby does not care about how many body bags get filled on a daily bases. Our other wealthy ally peer nations, also allow for firearm ownership, but they don't have a cultish fetish faction of firearm owners holding their nation hostage like we do here.

Japan, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and many European nations allow for firearm sales and ownership. But when they have a problem, they fix it. We have a saturated market, and an ease of access problem. The industry is only concerned with profits, not public safety.

You never said that we could get to Zero guns or Zero daily injuries from guns. I’m simply stating that’s illogical in the hopes you wouldn’t use it. (I’ve seen many people spout the “even one is too many” thing. )

Earlier this week, in my city of Lincoln Ne, a 15 year old drove his car 100’ish miles an hour, and got in an accident killing two and injuring 19 others. Not two blocks from my house. I can say with 100% certainty that I’m more afraid of idiots with cars, than idiots with guns. (Both being an issue of course.). 

The problem with comparing the US to other countries is size. We have states with the population of most of those countries. 

I grew up with guns, and I don’t understand this idea that there’s a “cultish fetish”. Can you give me some examples?

Nobody is looking for a perfect utopia, but we should ALWAYS work on reducing firearm injuries and deaths as much as possible. It is good for society to care about public safety.  I am tired of the wild west "unabridged" misinterpretation the industry and lobby markets. It is simply fear marketing to scare their base into supporting them.

You can't take a car 32 stories up in a hotel and murder over 50 people from a football field's length away. 

Saying people get injured and die from use of other things is a dodge.